On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 17:50 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: > On 4/27/22 17:37, Kai Huang wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 14:59 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: > > > In 5 years, if someone takes this code and runs it on Intel hardware > > > with memory hotplug, CPU hotplug, NVDIMMs *AND* TDX support, what happens? > > > > I thought we could document this in the documentation saying that this code can > > only work on TDX machines that don't have above capabilities (SPR for now). We > > can change the code and the documentation when we add the support of those > > features in the future, and update the documentation. > > > > If 5 years later someone takes this code, he/she should take a look at the > > documentation and figure out that he/she should choose a newer kernel if the > > machine support those features. > > > > I'll think about design solutions if above doesn't look good for you. > > No, it doesn't look good to me. > > You can't just say: > > /* > * This code will eat puppies if used on systems with hotplug. > */ > > and merrily await the puppy bloodbath. > > If it's not compatible, then you have to *MAKE* it not compatible in a > safe, controlled way. > > > > You can't just ignore the problems because they're not present on one > > > version of the hardware. > > Please, please read this again ^^ OK. I'll think about solutions and come back later. > > > > What about all the concerns about TDX module configuration changing? > > > > Leaving the TDX module in fully initialized state or shutdown state (in case of > > error during it's initialization) to the new kernel is fine. If the new kernel > > doesn't use TDX at all, then the TDX module won't access memory using it's > > global TDX KeyID. If the new kernel wants to use TDX, it will fail on the very > > first SEAMCALL when it tries to initialize the TDX module, and won't use > > SEAMCALL to call the TDX module again. If the new kernel doesn't follow this, > > then it is a bug in the new kernel, or the new kernel is malicious, in which > > case it can potentially corrupt the data. But I don't think we need to consider > > this as if the new kernel is malicious, then it can corrupt data anyway. > > > > Does this make sense? > > No, I'm pretty lost. But, I'll look at the next version of this with > fresh eyes and hopefully you'll have had time to streamline the text by > then. OK thanks. -- Thanks, -Kai