Adrian Hunter wrote: > On 7.3.2022 16.42, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 02:36:03PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote: > > > >>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c > >>> index 4420499f7bb4..a1f179ed39bf 100644 > >>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c > >>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c > >>> @@ -145,6 +145,15 @@ DEFINE_STATIC_CALL(pv_sched_clock, native_sched_clock); > >>> > >>> void paravirt_set_sched_clock(u64 (*func)(void)) > >>> { > >>> + /* > >>> + * Anything with ART on promises to have sane TSC, otherwise the whole > >>> + * ART thing is useless. In order to make ART useful for guests, we > >>> + * should continue to use the TSC. As such, ignore any paravirt > >>> + * muckery. > >>> + */ > >>> + if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_ART)) > >> > >> Does not seem to work because the feature X86_FEATURE_ART does not seem to get set. > >> Possibly because detect_art() excludes anything running on a hypervisor. > > > > Simple enough to delete that clause I suppose. Christopher, what is > > needed to make that go away? I suppose the guest needs to be aware of > > the active TSC scaling parameters to make it work ? > > There is also not X86_FEATURE_NONSTOP_TSC nor values for art_to_tsc_denominator > or art_to_tsc_numerator. Also, from the VM's point of view, TSC will jump > forwards every VM-Exit / VM-Entry unless the hypervisor changes the offset > every VM-Entry, which KVM does not, so it still cannot be used as a stable > clocksource. Translating between ART and the guest TSC can be a difficult problem and ART software support is disabled by default in a VM. There are two major issues translating ART to TSC in a VM: The range of the TSC scaling field in the VMCS is much larger than the range of values that can be represented using CPUID[15H], i.e., it is not possible to communicate this to the VM using the current CPUID interface. The range of scaling would need to be restricted or another para-virtualized method - preferably OS/hypervisor agnostic - to communicate the scaling factor to the guest needs to be invented. TSC offsetting may also be a problem. The VMCS TSC offset must be discoverable by the guest. This can be done via TSC_ADJUST MSR. The offset in the VMCS and the guest TSC_ADJUST MSR must always be equivalent, i.e. a write to TSC_ADJUST in the guest must be reflected in the VMCS and any changes to the offset in the VMCS must be reflected in the TSC_ADJUST MSR. Otherwise a para-virtualized method must be invented to communicate an arbitrary VMCS TSC offset to the guest.