Re: kvm scaling question

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 On 9/11/2009 at 5:02 PM, Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:36:10AM -0600, Bruce Rogers wrote:
>>> I am wondering if anyone has investigated how well kvm scales when 
> supporting many guests, or many vcpus or both.
>>>
>>> I'll do some investigations into the per vm memory overhead and
>>> play with bumping the max vcpu limit way beyond 16, but hopefully
>>> someone can comment on issues such as locking problems that are known
>>> to exist and needing to be addressed to increased parallellism,
>>> general overhead percentages which can help provide consolidation
>>> expectations, etc.
>> 
>> I suppose it depends on the guest and workload. With an EPT host and
>> 16-way Linux guest doing kernel compilations, on recent kernel, i see:
>  > ...
>> 
>>> Also, when I did a simple experiment with vcpu overcommitment, I was
>>> surprised how quickly performance suffered (just bringing a Linux vm
>>> up), since I would have assumed the additional vcpus would have been
>>> halted the vast majority of the time. On a 2 proc box, overcommitment
>>> to 8 vcpus in a guest (I know this isn't a good usage scenario, but
>>> does provide some insights) caused the boot time to increase to almost
>>> exponential levels. At 16 vcpus, it took hours to just reach the gui
>>> login prompt.
>> 
>> One probable reason for that are vcpus which hold spinlocks in the guest
>> are scheduled out in favour of vcpus which spin on that same lock.
> We have encountered this issue some time ago in Xen. Ticket spinlocks 
> make this even worse. More detailed info can be found here:
> http://www.amd64.org/research/virtualization.html#Lock_holder_preemption 
> 
> Have you tried using paravirtualized spinlock in the guest kernel?
> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0807.0/2808.html 


I'll try to give that a try.  Thanks for the tips.

Bruce


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