On 18/08/20 18:49, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 06:27:21PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> On 18/08/20 13:50, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: >>> For instance, what about suspend/resume of containers using idxd? >>> Wouldn't you want to have the same basic approach of controlling the >>> wq from userspace that virtualization uses? >> >> The difference is that VFIO more or less standardizes the approach you >> use for live migration. With another interface you'd have to come up >> with something for every driver, and add support in CRIU for every >> driver as well. > > VFIO is very unsuitable for use as some general userspace. It only 1:1 > with a single process and just can't absorb what the existing idxd > userspace is doing. The point of mdev is that it's not 1:1 anymore. Paolo > So VFIO is already not a solution for normal userspace idxd where CRIU > becomes interesting. Not sure what you are trying to say? > > My point was the opposite, if you want to enable CRIU for idxd then > you probably need all the same stuff as for qemu/VFIO except in the > normal idxd user API. > > Jason >