On 06/08/20 00:01, Jim Mattson wrote: >>> but perhaps I'm missing something obvious. >> Not necessarily obvious, but I can think of a rather contrived example >> where the sync heuristics break down. If we're running nested and get >> migrated in the middle of a VMM setting up TSCs, it's possible that >> enough time will pass that we believe subsequent writes to not be of >> the same TSC generation. > > An example that has been biting us frequently in self-tests: migrate a > VM with less than a second accumulated in its TSC. At the destination, > the TSCs are zeroed. Yeah, good point about selftests. But this would be about the sync heuristics messing up, and I don't understand how these ioctls improve things. >> My immediate reaction was that we should just migrate the heuristics >> state somehow > > Yeah, I completely agree. I believe this series fixes the > userspace-facing issues and your suggestion would address the > guest-facing issues. I still don't understand how these ioctls are any better for userspace than migrating MSR_IA32_TSC. The host TSC is different between source and destination, so the TSC offset will be different. I am all for improving migration of TSC state, but I think we should do it right, so we should migrate a host clock / TSC pair: then the destination host can use TSC frequency and host clock to compute the new TSC value. In fact, such a pair is exactly the data that the syncing heuristics track for each "generation" of syncing. To migrate the synchronization state, instead, we only need to migrate the "already_matched" (vcpu->arch.this_tsc_generation == kvm->arch.cur_tsc_generation) state. Putting all of this together, it would be something like this: - a VM-wide KVM_CLOCK/KVM_SET_CLOCK needs to migrate vcpu->arch.cur_tsc_{nsec,write} in addition to the current kvmclock value (it's unrelated, but I don't think it's worth creating a new ioctl). A new flag is set if these fields are set in the struct. If the flag is set, KVM_SET_CLOCK copies the fields back, bumps the generation and clears kvm->arch.nr_vcpus_matched_tsc. - a VCPU-wide KVM_GET_TSC_INFO returns a host clock / guest TSC pair plus the "already matched" state. KVM_SET_TSC_INFO will only use the host clock / TSC pair if "already matched" is false, to compute the destination-side TSC offset but not otherwise doing anything with it; or if "already matched" is true, it will ignore the pair, compute the TSC offset from the data in kvm->arch, and update kvm->arch.nr_vcpus_matched_tsc. Paolo