Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] kernel/configs: don't include PCI_QUIRKS in KVM guest configs

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On 2020-08-04 16:40, Alex Bennée wrote:
Marc Zyngier <maz@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:

On 2020-08-04 15:44, Alex Bennée wrote:
Marc Zyngier <maz@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:

On 2020-08-04 13:44, Alex Bennée wrote:
The VIRTIO_PCI support is an idealised PCI bus, we don't need a bunch
of bloat for real world hardware for a VirtIO guest.

Who says this guest will only have virtio devices?

This is true - although what is the point of kvm_guest.config? We
certainly turn on a whole bunch of virt optimised pathways with
PARAVIRT
and HYPERVISOR_GUEST along with the rest of VirtIO.

Most of which actually qualifies as bloat itself as far as KVM/arm64
is concerned...

So here is the question - does the kernel care about having a blessed
config for a minimal viable guest? They are certainly used in the cloud
but I understand the kernel is trying to get away from having a zoo of
configs. What is the actual point of kvm_guest.config? Just an easy
enabling for developers?

The cloud vendor I know certainly doesn't provide a "dumbed down"
kernel configuration. What they run is either a distro kernel
or something that fits their environment (which does include
HW PCI devices, and hardly any virtio device).

My take is that this kvm-special config isn't that useful in
the real world, and I don't believe there is such thing as a
"minimal viable guest" config, certainly not across architectures
and VMMs. Hopefully it fits someone's development workflow, but
that's probably it.

         M.
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Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...



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