Re: 答复: [PATCH][v6] KVM: X86: support APERF/MPERF registers

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On 2020/6/5 12:23, Li,Rongqing wrote:


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主题: Re: [PATCH][v6] KVM: X86: support APERF/MPERF registers

Hi RongQing,

On 2020/6/5 9:44, Li RongQing wrote:
Guest kernel reports a fixed cpu frequency in /proc/cpuinfo, this is
confused to user when turbo is enable, and aperf/mperf can be used to
show current cpu frequency after 7d5905dc14a
"(x86 / CPU: Always show current CPU frequency in /proc/cpuinfo)"
so guest should support aperf/mperf capability

This patch implements aperf/mperf by three mode: none, software
emulation, and pass-through

None: default mode, guest does not support aperf/mperf
s/None/Note

Software emulation: the period of aperf/mperf in guest mode are
accumulated as emulated value

Pass-though: it is only suitable for KVM_HINTS_REALTIME, Because that
hint guarantees we have a 1:1 vCPU:CPU binding and guaranteed no
over-commit.
The flag "KVM_HINTS_REALTIME 0" (in the Documentation/virt/kvm/cpuid.rst)
is claimed as "guest checks this feature bit to determine that vCPUs are never
preempted for an unlimited time allowing optimizations".

I couldn't see its relationship with "1:1 vCPU: pCPU binding".
The patch doesn't check this flag as well for your pass-through purpose.

Thanks,
Like Xu


I think this is user space jobs to bind HINT_REALTIME and mperf passthrough, KVM just do what userspace wants.


That's fine for user space to bind HINT_REALTIME and mperf passthrough,
But I was asking why HINT_REALTIME means "1:1 vCPU: pCPU binding".

As you said, "Pass-though: it is only suitable for KVM_HINTS_REALTIME",
which means, KVM needs to make sure the kvm->arch.aperfmperf_mode value
could "only" be set to KVM_APERFMPERF_PT when the check
kvm_para_has_hint(KVM_HINTS_REALTIME) is passed.

Specifically, the KVM_HINTS_REALTIME is a per-kvm capability
while the kvm_aperfmperf_mode is a per-vm capability. It's unresolved.

KVM doesn't always do what userspace wants especially
you're trying to expose some features about
power and thermal management in the virtualization context.

and this gives user space a possibility, guest has passthrough mperfaperf without HINT_REALTIME, guest can get coarse cpu frequency without performance effect if guest can endure error frequency occasionally




-Li





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