Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:10 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:01 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> Now I'm confused again. Your patch is very careful not to schedule if
>> we're in an RCU read-side critical section, but the regular preemption
>> code (preempt_schedule_irq, etc) seems to be willing to schedule
>> inside an RCU read-side critical section. Why is the latter okay but
>> not the async pf case?
>
> I read more docs. I guess the relevant situation is
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_CPU, in which case it is legal to preempt an RCU
> read-side critical section and obviously legal to put the whole CPU to
> sleep, but it's illegal to explicitly block in an RCU read-side
> critical section. So I have a question for Paul: is it, in fact,
> entirely illegal to block or merely illegal to block for an
> excessively long time, e.g. waiting for user space or network traffic?
Two issues here:
- excessive blocking time
- entering idle with an RCU read side critical section blocking
> In this situation, we cannot make progress until the host says we
> can, so we are, in effect, blocking until the host tells us to stop
> blocking. Regardless, I agree that turning IRQs on is reasonable, and
> allowing those IRQs to preempt us is reasonable.
>
> As it stands in your patch, the situation is rather odd: we'll run
> another task if that task *preempts* us (e.g. we block long enough to
> run out of our time slice), but we won't run another task if we aren't
> preempted. This seems bizarre.
Yes, it looks odd. We could do:
preempt_disable();
while (!page_arrived()) {
if (preempt_count() == 1 && this_cpu_runnable_tasks() > 1) {
set_need_resched();
schedule_preempt_disabled();
} else {
native_safe_halt();
local_irq_disable();
}
}
preempt_enable();
Don't know if it's worth the trouble. But that's not the problem :)
> I think this issue still stands and is actually a fairly easy race to hit.
>
> STI
> IRQ happens and we get preempted
> another task runs and gets the #PF "async pf wakeup" event
> reschedule, back to original task
> HLT
See the other mail about STI :)
Thanks,
tglx
