Re: [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3] x86: Add RDTSC test

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> On Jan 28, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:59:45AM -0800, Jim Mattson wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 12:56 PM Sean Christopherson
>> <sean.j.christopherson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 11:24:31AM -0800, Jim Mattson wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 8:36 PM Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Jim Mattson <jmattson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I had to guess, you probably have SMM malware on your host. Remove
>>>>>> the malware, and the test should pass.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, malware will always be an option, but I doubt this is the case.
>>>> 
>>>> Was my innuendo too subtle? I consider any code executing in SMM to be malware.
>>> 
>>> SMI complications seem unlikely.  The straw that broke the camel's back
>>> was a 1152 cyle delta, presumably the other failing runs had similar deltas.
>>> I've never benchmarked SMI+RSM, but I highly doubt it comes anywhere close
>>> to VM-Enter/VM-Exit's super optimized ~400 cycle round trip.  E.g. I
>>> wouldn't be surprised if just SMI+RSM is over 1500 cycles.
>> 
>> Good point. What generation of hardware are you running on, Nadav?
> 
> Skylake.

Indeed. Thanks for answering on my behalf ;-)

> 
>>>>> Interestingly, in the last few times the failure did not reproduce. Yet,
>>>>> thinking about it made me concerned about MTRRs configuration, and that
>>>>> perhaps performance is affected by memory marked as UC after boot, since
>>>>> kvm-unit-test does not reset MTRRs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reading the variable range MTRRs, I do see some ranges marked as UC (most of
>>>>> the range 2GB-4GB, if I read the MTRRs correctly):
>>>>> 
>>>>>  MSR 0x200 = 0x80000000
>>>>>  MSR 0x201 = 0x3fff80000800
>>>>>  MSR 0x202 = 0xff000005
>>>>>  MSR 0x203 = 0x3fffff000800
>>>>>  MSR 0x204 = 0x38000000000
>>>>>  MSR 0x205 = 0x3f8000000800
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think we should set the MTRRs somehow in KVM-unit-tests? If yes, can
>>>>> you suggest a reasonable configuration?
>>>> 
>>>> I would expect MTRR issues to result in repeatable failures. For
>>>> instance, if your VMCS ended up in UC memory, that might slow things
>>>> down quite a bit. But, I would expect the VMCS to end up at the same
>>>> address each time the test is run.
>>> 
>>> Agreed on the repeatable failures part, but putting the VMCS in UC memory
>>> shouldn't affect this type of test.  The CPU's internal VMCS cache isn't
>>> coherent, and IIRC isn't disabled if the MTRRs for the VMCS happen to be
>>> UC.
>> 
>> But the internal VMCS cache only contains selected fields, doesn't it?
>> Uncached fields would have to be written to memory on VM-exit. Or are
>> all of the mutable fields in the internal VMCS cache?
> 
> Hmm.  I can neither confirm nor deny?  The official Intel response to this
> would be "it's microarchitectural".  I'll put it this way: it's in Intel's
> best interest to minimize the latency of VMREAD, VMWRITE, VM-Enter and
> VM-Exit.

I will run some more experiments and get back to you. It is a shame that
every experiment requires a (real) boot…





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