> -----Original Message----- > From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:25 PM > To: Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx; Jiri Pirko <jiri@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; > kwankhede@xxxxxxxxxx; davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux- > kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 11:52:21 +0000 > Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:05 PM > > > To: Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Cc: alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx; Jiri Pirko <jiri@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; > > > kwankhede@xxxxxxxxxx; davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > linux- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 11:07:37 +0000 > > > Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:17 PM > > > > > To: Parav Pandit <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Cc: alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx; Jiri Pirko <jiri@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; > > > > > kwankhede@xxxxxxxxxx; davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > > > linux- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mdev: Expose mdev alias in sysfs tree > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 15:41:18 -0500 Parav Pandit > > > > > <parav@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > +static ssize_t alias_show(struct device *device, > > > > > > + struct device_attribute *attr, char *buf) { > > > > > > + struct mdev_device *dev = mdev_from_dev(device); > > > > > > + > > > > > > + if (!dev->alias) > > > > > > + return -EOPNOTSUPP; > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering how to make this consumable by userspace in the > > > > > easiest > > > way. > > > > > - As you do now (userspace gets an error when trying to read)? > > > > > - Returning an empty value (nothing to see here, move along)? > > > > No. This is confusing, to return empty value, because it says that > > > > there is an > > > alias but it is some weird empty string. > > > > If there is alias, it shows exactly what it is. > > > > If no alias it returns an error code = unsupported -> inline with > > > > other widely > > > used subsystem. > > > > > > > > > - Or not creating the attribute at all? That would match what userspace > > > > > sees on older kernels, so it needs to be able to deal with > > > > > that > > > > New sysfs files can appear. Tool cannot say that I was not > > > > expecting this file > > > here. > > > > User space is supposed to work with the file they are off interest. > > > > Mdev interface has option to specify vendor specific files, though > > > > in usual > > > manner it's not recommended. > > > > So there is no old user space, new kernel issue here. > > > > > > I'm not talking about old userspace/new kernel, but new userspace/old > kernel. > > > Code that wants to consume this attribute needs to be able to cope > > > with its absence anyway. > > > > > Old kernel doesn't have alias file. > > If some tool tries to read this file it will fail to open non existing file; open() > system call is already taking care of it. > > Yes, that was exactly my argument? I misunderstood probably. I re-read all 3 options you posted. I do not see any issue in reporting error code similar to other widely used netdev subsystem, hence propose what is posted in the patch.