Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker

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On 2019/8/1 下午10:15, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 01:02:18PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2019/8/1 上午3:30, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 09:28:20PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2019/7/31 下午8:39, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 04:46:53AM -0400, Jason Wang wrote:
We used to use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker. This leads
calling synchronize_rcu() in invalidate_range_start(). But on a busy
system, there would be many factors that may slow down the
synchronize_rcu() which makes it unsuitable to be called in MMU
notifier.

A solution is SRCU but its overhead is obvious with the expensive full
memory barrier. Another choice is to use seqlock, but it doesn't
provide a synchronization method between readers and writers. The last
choice is to use vq mutex, but it need to deal with the worst case
that MMU notifier must be blocked and wait for the finish of swap in.

So this patch switches use a counter to track whether or not the map
was used. The counter was increased when vq try to start or finish
uses the map. This means, when it was even, we're sure there's no
readers and MMU notifier is synchronized. When it was odd, it means
there's a reader we need to wait it to be even again then we are
synchronized.
You just described a seqlock.
Kind of, see my explanation below.


We've been talking about providing this as some core service from mmu
notifiers because nearly every use of this API needs it.
That would be very helpful.


IMHO this gets the whole thing backwards, the common pattern is to
protect the 'shadow pte' data with a seqlock (usually open coded),
such that the mmu notififer side has the write side of that lock and
the read side is consumed by the thread accessing or updating the SPTE.
Yes, I've considered something like that. But the problem is, mmu notifier
(writer) need to wait for the vhost worker to finish the read before it can
do things like setting dirty pages and unmapping page.  It looks to me
seqlock doesn't provide things like this.
The seqlock is usually used to prevent a 2nd thread from accessing the
VA while it is being changed by the mm. ie you use something seqlocky
instead of the ugly mmu_notifier_unregister/register cycle.

Yes, so we have two mappings:

[1] vring address to VA
[2] VA to PA

And have several readers and writers

1) set_vring_num_addr(): writer of both [1] and [2]
2) MMU notifier: reader of [1] writer of [2]
3) GUP: reader of [1] writer of [2]
4) memory accessors: reader of [1] and [2]

Fortunately, 1) 3) and 4) have already synchronized through vq->mutex. We
only need to deal with synchronization between 2) and each of the reset:
Sync between 1) and 2): For mapping [1], I do
mmu_notifier_unregister/register. This help to avoid holding any lock to do
overlap check.
I suspect you could have done this with a RCU technique instead of
register/unregister.


Probably. But the issue to be addressed by this patch is the synchronization between MMU notifier and vhost worker.



Sync between 2) and 4): For mapping [1], both are readers, no need any
synchronization. For mapping [2], synchronize through RCU (or something
simliar to seqlock).
You can't really use a seqlock, seqlocks are collision-retry locks,
and the semantic here is that invalidate_range_start *MUST* not
continue until thread doing #4 above is guarenteed no longer touching
the memory.


Yes, that's the tricky part. For hardware like CPU, kicking through IPI is sufficient for synchronization. But for vhost kthread, it requires a low overhead synchronization.



This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
synchronize_rcu.


I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some concern. Then I try spinlock and mutex:

1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 performance improvement.

2) SRCU: full memory barrier requires on srcu_read_lock(), which still leads little performance improvement

3) mutex: a possible issue is need to wait for the page to be swapped in (is this unacceptable ?), another issue is that we need hold vq lock during range overlap check.

4) using vhost_flush_work() instead of synchronize_rcu(): still need to wait for swap. But can do overlap checking without the lock



And, again, you can't re-invent a spinlock with open coding and get
something better.


So the question is if waiting for swap is considered to be unsuitable for MMU notifiers. If not, it would simplify codes. If not, we still need to figure out a possible solution.

Btw, I come up another idea, that is to disable preemption when vhost thread need to access the memory. Then register preempt notifier and if vhost thread is preempted, we're sure no one will access the memory and can do the cleanup.

Thanks



Jason



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