Re: [KVM PATCH v5 3/4] KVM: Fix races in irqfd using new eventfd_kref_get interface

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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:54:42PM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:28:19PM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >   
> >> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:57:30PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:56:12PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 08:53:22AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:28:27AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> eventfd currently emits a POLLHUP wakeup on f_ops->release() to generate a
> >>>>>>>> "release" callback.  This lets eventfd clients know if the eventfd is about
> >>>>>>>> to go away and is very useful particularly for in-kernel clients.  However,
> >>>>>>>> until recently it is not possible to use this feature of eventfd in a
> >>>>>>>> race-free way.  This patch utilizes a new eventfd interface to rectify
> >>>>>>>> the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Note that one final race is known to exist: the slow-work thread may race
> >>>>>>>> with module removal.  We are currently working with slow-work upstream
> >>>>>>>> to fix this issue as well.  Since the code prior to this patch also
> >>>>>>>> races with module_put(), we are not making anything worse, but rather
> >>>>>>>> shifting the cause of the race.  Once the slow-work code is patched we
> >>>>>>>> will be fixing the last remaining issue.
> >>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>> By the way, why are we using slow-work here? Wouldn't a regular
> >>>>>>> workqueue do just as well, with less code, and avoid the race?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>> I believe it will cause a problem if you do a "flush_work()" from inside
> >>>>>> a work-item.  I could be wrong, of course, but it looks like a recipe to
> >>>>>> deadlock.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Greg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> Sure, but the idea is to only flush on kvm close, never from work item.
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> To clarify, you don't flush slow works from a work-item,
> >>>> so you shouldn't need to flush workqueue either.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> I guess my question is - why is slow work different? It's still
> >>> a thread pool underneath ...
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Its not interdependent.  Flush-work blocks the thread..if the thread
> >> happens to be the work-queue thread you may deadlock preventing it from
> >> processing further jobs like the inject.  In reality it shouldnt be
> >> possible, but its just a bad idea to assume its ok.
> >> Slow work, on the
> >> other hand, will just make a new thread.
> >>
> >> -Greg
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > But if you create your own workqueue, and all you do there is destroy
> > irqfds, things are ok I think. Right?
> >   
> 
> Yep, creating your own queue works too.  I picked slow-work as an
> alternate to generating a dedicated resource, but I agree either method
> would work fine.  Do you have a preference? 
> 
> Regards,
> -Greg

It's not something I lose sleep about, but I think workqueue might be
less code: for example, you can just flush it instead of using your own
counter. And possibly things can be further simplified by making the
workqueue single-threaded and always doing deassign from there.

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