Re: Question regarding VMCS launch state

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On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:21 AM, David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 09.04.2018 09:17, Jidong Xiao wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:10 AM, David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 09.04.2018 06:21, Jidong Xiao wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Intel SDM says:
>>>>
>>>> "The launch state of a VMCS determines which VM-entry instruction
>>>> should be used with that VMCS: the
>>>> VMLAUNCH instruction requires a VMCS whose launch state is “clear”;
>>>> the VMRESUME instruction requires a VMCS
>>>> whose launch state is “launched”. A logical processor maintains a
>>>> VMCS’s launch state in the corresponding VMCS
>>>> region."
>>>>
>>>> "There are no other ways to modify the launch state of a VMCS (it
>>>> cannot be modified using VMWRITE) and there
>>>> is no direct way to discover it (it cannot be read using VMREAD).'
>>>>
>>>> According to the above description, the launch state is stored in the
>>>> VMCS region, but it seems the SDM doesn't say where exactly the launch
>>>> state is stored in the VMCS. For example, the VMCS data is organized
>>>> into six logic groups: Guest-state area, Host-state area, VM-execution
>>>> control fields, VM-exit control fields, VM-entry control fields,
>>>> VM-exit information fields. However, I can't find the "launch state"
>>>> in any of these fields.
>>>>
>>>> If it's in the VMCS region, then why can't I find it? and why it can't
>>>> be discovered by VMREAD?
>>>
>>> Why do you assume the launch state has to be stored inside the VMCS region?
>>>
>>> It is just being stated that you cannot detect/modify it via
>>> VMWRITE/VMREAD. Which is perfectly true if the launch state is stored
>>> outside of the VMCS region.
>>>
>>> What the SDM states here simply is that the caller has to remember if a
>>> VMCS has already been launched. This is what we do with the "launched"
>>> variable.
>>>
>>> And this is also what we use for emulation of VMLAUNCH/VMRESUME in
>>> nested_vmx_run().
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I saw in the kvm source code a variable called launched is defined,
>>>> which enables kvm to trace the launch state of the VMCS, but is this
>>>> launch state really existing in the VMCS region? If so, where exactly
>>>> is it?
>>>
>>> Nope, not in the region, it's glued to struct loaded_vmcs.
>>>
>> Oh, okay, thanks David, I see. The reason I assumed it's in the VMCS
>> region is because the SDM says:
>>
>> "A logical processor maintains a VMCS’s launch state in the
>> corresponding VMCS region."
>>
>> Since it's not really in the region, I guess the SDM is inaccurate on this.
>
> Guess as the guest has to way to access it via VMREAD/VMWRITE it doesn't
> make any difference, or do you have something in mind?
>
Oh, because the SDM clearly says it's in the region, but then it
doesn't say where exactly it is in the region; so I was just confused.
But now I understand. Thanks David!

>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David / dhildenb
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb




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