Hi Eric, On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 14/02/18 10:43, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 13/02/18 17:36, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >>>> Vfio-platform requires reset support, provided either by ACPI, or, on DT >>>> platforms, by a device-specific reset driver matching against the >>>> device's compatible value. >>>> >>>> On many SoCs, devices are connected to an SoC-internal reset controller, >>>> and can be reset in a generic way. Hence add support to reset such >>>> devices using the reset controller subsystem, provided the reset >>>> hierarchy is described correctly in DT using the "resets" property. >>> >>> I first acknowledge I am not familiar with what those reset controllers >>> do in practice. My fear is that we may rely on generic SW pieces that >>> may not be adapted to passthrough constraints. We must guarantee that >>> any DMA access attempted by the devices are stopped and any interrupts >>> gets stopped. Can we guarantee that the reset controller always induce >>> that? Otherwise we may leave the door opened to badly reset assigned >>> devices. >> >> An on-SoC reset controller is basically a block controlling signals to the >> reset inputs of the individual on-SoC devices. >> On Renesas ARM SoCs, this allows to do a full reset of the attached device. >> >> Of course the exact semantics depend on the actual SoC. > that's the issue actually. >> If e.g. DMA and interrupts are not stopped for a specific device on a >> specific SoC, it still needs a device-specific reset driver, matching against >> the appropriate compatible value, cfr. the quoted paragraph below. > yes but by default we still accept the reset controller solution. >> >> You could add a whitelist for of_machine_is_compatible() or >> of_device_is_compatible(), but that will grow large fast. > Could be the kind of solution needed. At the moment the list of assigned > platform devices is pretty reduced. > > Couldn't we imagine additional dt properties to emphasize the fact a > platform device is passthrough friendly in terms of reset, either > through a reset controller or exposing a single reg that need to be > reset for full reset to be achieved, in accordance with assignment > constraints. That way, the driver writer would somehow certify the > device is eligible for passthrough. One of the issue today is that the > vfio platform reset driver is not maintained by the native driver > maintainer. I'm not so fond of adding more DT properties for this. They can be abused as well. In general, if there's a "resets" DT property, it means the device can be reset through the pointed-by reset controller. So that's the common case, which I'd like to optimize/simplify for. If more is needed, a separate (device-specific) vfio_reset handler needs to be written, by the people that know the hardware. > I think if people want to do platform passthrough, they need to devise > their HW IPs so that this reset modality is simplified by exposing this > kind of single reg and then dt description may expose this. Also if > possible, the dt node must be as simple/generic as possible to avoid > writing a huge dt node creation function on QEMU side and avoid > dependencies on other nodes. Yes. It all depends on sane hardware ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds