On 08/14/2017 09:12 PM, Robin Murphy wrote: > On 14/08/17 10:45, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Is there anything to change besides those compiler errors and David's >> comment in 5/5? Or the while patchset is too bad? Thanks. > > While I now understand it's not the low-level thing I first thought it > was, so my reasoning has changed, personally I don't like this approach > any more than the previous one - it still smells of abusing external > APIs to pass information from one part of VFIO to another (and it has > the same conceptual problem of attributing something to interrupt > sources that is actually a property of the interrupt target). > > Taking a step back, though, why does vfio-pci perform this check in the > first place? If a malicious guest already has control of a device, any > kind of interrupt spoofing it could do by fiddling with the MSI-X > message address/data it could simply do with a DMA write anyway, so the > security argument doesn't stand up in general (sure, not all PCIe > devices may be capable of arbitrary DMA, but that seems like more of a > tenuous security-by-obscurity angle to me). Hi Robin, DMA writes will be translated (thereby censored) by DMA Remapping hardware, while MSI/MSI-X will not. Is this different for non-x86? -- Thanks, Jike > Besides, with Type1 IOMMU > the fact that we've let a device be assigned at all means that this is > already a non-issue (because either the hardware provides isolation or > the user has explicitly accepted the consequences of an unsafe > configuration) - from patch #4 that's apparently the same for SPAPR TCE, > in which case it seems this flag doesn't even need to be propagated and > could simply be assumed always. > > On the other hand, if the check is not so much to mitigate malicious > guests attacking the system as to prevent dumb guests breaking > themselves (e.g. if some or all of the MSI-X capability is actually > emulated), then allowing things to sometimes go wrong on the grounds of > an irrelevant hardware feature doesn't seem correct :/ > > Robin. > >> On 07/08/17 17:25, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote: >>> This is a followup for "[PATCH kernel v4 0/6] vfio-pci: Add support for mmapping MSI-X table" >>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg152232.html >>> >>> This time it is using "caps" in IOMMU groups. The main question is if PCI >>> bus flags or IOMMU domains are still better (and which one). >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is some background: >>> >>> Current vfio-pci implementation disallows to mmap the page >>> containing MSI-X table in case that users can write directly >>> to MSI-X table and generate an incorrect MSIs. >>> >>> However, this will cause some performance issue when there >>> are some critical device registers in the same page as the >>> MSI-X table. We have to handle the mmio access to these >>> registers in QEMU emulation rather than in guest. >>> >>> To solve this issue, this series allows to expose MSI-X table >>> to userspace when hardware enables the capability of interrupt >>> remapping which can ensure that a given PCI device can only >>> shoot the MSIs assigned for it. And we introduce a new bus_flags >>> PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP to test this capability on PCI side >>> for different archs. >>> >>> >>> This is based on sha1 >>> 26c5cebfdb6c "Merge branch 'parisc-4.13-4' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/parisc-linux" >>> >>> Please comment. Thanks. >>> >>> Changelog: >>> >>> v5: >>> * redid the whole thing via so-called IOMMU group capabilities >>> >>> v4: >>> * rebased on recent upstream >>> * got all 6 patches from v2 (v3 was missing some) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Alexey Kardashevskiy (5): >>> iommu: Add capabilities to a group >>> iommu: Set IOMMU_GROUP_CAP_ISOLATE_MSIX if MSI controller enables IRQ >>> remapping >>> iommu/intel/amd: Set IOMMU_GROUP_CAP_ISOLATE_MSIX if IRQ remapping is >>> enabled >>> powerpc/iommu: Set IOMMU_GROUP_CAP_ISOLATE_MSIX >>> vfio-pci: Allow to expose MSI-X table to userspace when safe >>> >>> include/linux/iommu.h | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++ >>> include/linux/vfio.h | 1 + >>> arch/powerpc/kernel/iommu.c | 1 + >>> drivers/iommu/amd_iommu.c | 3 +++ >>> drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c | 3 +++ >>> drivers/iommu/iommu.c | 35 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c | 20 +++++++++++++++++--- >>> drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_rdwr.c | 5 ++++- >>> drivers/vfio/vfio.c | 15 +++++++++++++++ >>> 9 files changed, 99 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) >>> >> >> >