Re: userspace emulated smmu/vfio integration: how to trap updates to the table structures?

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On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Christoffer,
>
> On 02/05/2017 09:53, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Will, Robin, Jean-Philippe,
>>>
>>> I have been working on the integration between user-space emulated
>>> SMMU-v3 and VFIO in QEMU. At the moment I fail identifying a proper easy
>>> way to trap page table updates. This is requested to keep the host
>>> translation structures consistent to guest translation structures.
>>>
>>> On Intel VTD there is a so-called "caching mode" (CM, see VTD spec
>>> paragraph 6.1) that forces the OS to explicitly invalidate caches
>>> whenever it updates any remapping structure (updates to not-present or
>>> present entries). Those invalidation commands are used to trap and
>>> update host structures. This mode was devised for virtualization. I was
>>> not able to find such "caching mode" on ARM SMMU. Is there any?
>>>
>>> If not, do you have any other suggestion, I mean, besides the
>>> virtio-based solution.
>>>
>>>
>> Worst case, can you make the guest page tables read-only and catch the
>> faults and propagate changes to SMMU translations?
>
> The issue I foresee is there are up to 4 level of page tables to trap.
> This would lead to plenty of regions to "translate" on qemu side. Also,
> besides the 1st level pointed by TTBR found in stage 1 context
> descriptor, other page regions would be discovered dynamically as
> mapping are built. To me this is the last resort solution if confirmed
> feasible.
>
Completely agree, it would be a terrible solution.

Thanks,
-Christoffer



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