Hi Eric, Thanks for posting this. On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 01:22:08PM +0000, Eric Auger wrote: > This is the second respin on top of Robin's series [1], addressing Alex' comments. > > Major changes are: > - MSI-doorbell API now is moved to DMA IOMMU API following Alex suggestion > to put all API pieces at the same place (so eventually in the IOMMU > subsystem) > - new iommu_domain_msi_resv struct and accessor through DOMAIN_ATTR_MSI_RESV > domain with mirror VFIO capability > - more robustness I think in the VFIO layer > - added "iommu/iova: fix __alloc_and_insert_iova_range" since with the current > code I failed allocating an IOVA page in a single page domain with upper part > reserved > > IOVA range exclusion will be handled in a separate series > > The priority really is to discuss and freeze the API and especially the MSI > doorbell's handling. Do we agree to put that in DMA IOMMU? > > Note: the size computation does not take into account possible page overlaps > between doorbells but it would add quite a lot of complexity i think. > > Tested on AMD Overdrive (single GICv2m frame) with I350 VF assignment. Marc, Robin and I sat down and had a look at the series and, whilst it's certainly addressing a problem that we desperately want to see fixed, we think that it's slightly over-engineering in places and could probably be simplified in the interest of getting something upstream that can be used as a base, on which the ABI can be extended as concrete use-cases become clear. Stepping back a minute, we're trying to reserve some of the VFIO virtual address space so that it can be used by devices to map their MSI doorbells using the SMMU. With your patches, this requires that (a) the kernel tells userspace about the size and alignment of the doorbell region (MSI_RESV) and (b) userspace tells the kernel the VA-range that can be used (RESERVED_MSI_IOVA). However, this is all special-cased for MSI doorbells and there are potentially other regions of the VFIO address space that are reserved and need to be communicated to userspace as well. We already know of hardware where the PCI RC intercepts p2p accesses before they make it to the SMMU, and other hardware where the MSI doorbell is at a fixed address. This means that we need a mechanism to communicate *fixed* regions of virtual address space that are reserved by VFIO. I don't even particularly care if VFIO_MAP_DMA enforces that, but we do need a way to tell userspace "hey, you don't want to put memory here because it won't work well with devices". In that case, we end up with something like your MSI_RESV capability, but actually specifying a virtual address range that is simply not to be used by MAP_DMA -- we don't say anything about MSIs. Now, taking this to its logical conclusion, we no longer need to distinguish between remappable reserved regions and fixed reserved regions in the ABI. Instead, we can have the kernel allocate the virtual address space for the remappable reserved regions (probably somewhere in the bottom 4GB) and expose them via the capability. This simplifies things in the following ways: * You don't need to keep track of MSI vs DMA addresses in the VFIO rbtree * You don't need to try collapsing doorbells into a single region * You don't need a special MAP flavour to map MSI doorbells * The ABI is reusable for PCI p2p and fixed doorbells I really think it would make your patch series both generally useful and an awful lot smaller, whilst leaving the door open to ABI extension on a case-by-case basis when we determine that it's really needed. Thoughts? Will -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html