On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:47:58 +0000 "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 11:42 PM > > > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:15:24 +0000 > > "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hi, Alex, > > > > > > Along with recent enhancement on virtual IOMMU (vIOMMU) in Qemu, I'm > > > thinking whether there is any issue for mdev to cope with vIOMMU. I > > > know today VFIO device only works with PowerPC IOMMU (note someone > > > is enabling VFIO device with virtual VT-d but looks not complete yet), but > > > it's always good to do architecture discussion earlier. :-) > > > > > > VFIO mdev framework maintains a GPA->HPA mapping, which are queried > > > by vendor specific mdev device model for emulation purpose. For example, > > > guest GPU PTEs may need be translated into shadow GPU PTEs, where > > > GPA->HPA conversion is required. > > > > > > When a virtual IOMMU is exposed to the guest, IOVA may be used as DMA > > > address by the guest, which means guest PTE now contains IOVA instead > > > of GPA then device model would like to know IOVA->HPA mapping. After > > > checking current vIOMMU logic within Qemu, looks it's not a problem. > > > vIOMMU is expected to notify any IOVA change to VFIO and kernel VFIO > > > driver does receive map requests for IOVA regions. Thus the mapping > > > structure that VFIO maintains does be IOVA->HPA mapping as required > > > by device model. > > > > > > In this manner looks no further change is required on proposed mdev > > > framework to support vIOMMU. The only thing that I'm unsure is how > > > Qemu guarantees to map IOVA vs. GPA exclusively. I checked that > > > vfio_listener_region_add initiates map request for normal memory > > > regions (which is GPA), and then vfio_iommu_map_notify will send > > > map request for IOVA region which is notified through IOMMU notifier. > > > I don't think VFIO can cope both GPA/IOVA map requests simultaneously, > > > since VFIO doesn't maintain multiple address spaces on one device. It's > > > not a mdev specific question, but I definitely missed some key points > > > here since it's assumed to be working for PowerPC already... > > > > I prefer not to distinguish GPA vs IOVA, the device always operates in > > the IOVA space. Without a vIOMMU, it just happens to be an identity map > > into the GPA space. Think about how this works on real hardware, when > > VT-d is not enabled, there's no translation, IOVA = GPA. The device > > interacts directly with system memory, same as the default case in > > QEMU now. When VT-d is enabled, the device is placed into an IOMMU > > domain and the IOVA space is now restricted to the translations defined > > within that domain. The same is expected to happen with QEMU, all of > > the GPA mapped IOVA space is removed via vfio_listener_region_del() and > > a new IOMMU region is added, enabling the vfio_iommu_map_notify > > Ha, it is the info I'm looking for. Can you help point to me where above > logic is implemented? I only saw the latter part about adding a new IOMMU > region... > > And suppose we also have logic to do the vice versa - when guest disables > IOMMU then all IOVA mappings will be deleted and then GPA mapped IOVA > space will be replayed? Since we've never actually seen this work with an assigned device, I may have misspoken on how it actually works. I think the above is how it *should* work though. As it is, vfio_initfn() calls pci_device_iommu_address_space(), this is what looks for iommu address spaces for a device and when not found makes use of address_space_memory. So at this point we are either strictly using the iommu notifier or strictly using address_space_memory. This seems hugely inefficient to me, but we don't have any mechanisms to change a device's address space. IMHO it really seems like we need dynamic address space aliasing support for an iommu like VT-d. So if VT-d emulation actually worked with the iommu notifier today, I believe each vfio device will be placed into separate containers and the iommu replay mechanism would populate whatever initial translations are configured for the device, including translations to address_space_memory if the iommu is disabled or configured for passthrough. It would be through notifier events that this would need to be de-populated and re-populated with discrete entries if the device is configured to a more fine grained domain. I have my doubts whether QEMU iommu support is really properly designed to handle an iommu like VT-d, it seems better equipped for simple window-based iommus. Thanks, Alex -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html