Hi Pavel, On 01/26/2016 06:25 PM, Pavel Fedin wrote: > Hello! > I'd like just to clarify some things for myself and better wrap my head around it... > >> On x86 all accesses to the 1MB PA region [FEE0_0000h - FEF0_000h] are directed >> as interrupt messages: accesses to this special PA window directly target the >> APIC configuration space and not DRAM, meaning the downstream IOMMU is bypassed. > > So, this is effectively the same as always having hardwired 1:1 mappings on all IOMMUs, isn't it ? > If so, then we can't we just do the same, just by forcing similar 1:1 mapping? This is what i tried to do in my patchset. All of > you are talking about a situation which arises when we are emulating different machine with different physical addresses layout. And > e. g. if our host has MSI at 0xABADCAFE, our target could have valid RAM at the same location, and we need to handle it somehow, > therefore we have to move our MSI window out of target's RAM. But how does this work on a PC then? What if our host is PC, and we > want to emulate some ARM board, which has RAM at FE00 0000 ? Or does it mean that PC architecture is flawed and can reliably handle > PCI passthrough only for itself ? Alex answered to this I think: " x86 isn't problem-free in this space. An x86 VM is going to know that the 0xfee00000 address range is special, it won't be backed by RAM and won't be a DMA target, thus we'll never attempt to map it for an iova address. However, if we run a non-x86 VM or a userspace driver, it doesn't necessarily know that there's anything special about that range of iovas. I intend to resolve this with an extension to the iommu info ioctl that describes the available iova space for the iommu. The interrupt region would simply be excluded. " I am not sure I've addressed this requirement yet but it seems more future proof to have an IOMMU mapping for those addresses. For the ARM use case I think Marc gave guidance: " We want userspace to be in control of the memory map, and it is the kernel's job to tell us whether or not this matches the HW capabilities or not. A fixed mapping may completely clash with the memory map I want (think emulating HW x on platform y), and there is no reason why we should have the restrictions x86 has. " That's the rationale behind respining that way. Waiting for other comments & discussions, I am going to address the iova and dma_addr_t kbuilt reported compilation issues. Please apologize for those. Best Regards Eric > > Kind regards, > Pavel Fedin > Senior Engineer > Samsung Electronics Research center Russia > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html