On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 04:55:13PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Thursday 15 October 2015 16:46:09 Eric Auger wrote: > > > > > > This is where we'd need a little more changes for this approach. Instead > > > of unbinding the device from its driver, the idea would be that the > > > driver remains bound as far as the driver model is concerned, but > > > it would be in a quiescent state where no other subsystem interacts with > > > it (i.e. it gets unregistered from networking core or whichever it uses). > > > > Currently we use the same mechanism as for PCI, ie. unbind the native > > driver and then bind VFIO platform driver in its place. Don't you think > > changing this may be a pain for user-space tools that are designed to > > work that way for PCI? > > > > My personal preference would be to start with your first proposal since > > it looks (to me) less complex and "unknown" that the 2d approach. > > We certainly can't easily change from one approach to the other without > breaking user expectations, so the decision needs to be made carefully. > > The main observation here is that platform devices are unlike PCI in this > regard because they need extra per-device code. I have argued in the > past that we should not reuse the "VFIO" name here because it's actually > something else. I've adjusted to consider VFIO a general purpose framework for mapping device resources into userspace/VMs, and there are certainly a lot of commonality with both PCI, platform, and potentially other devices for that to make sense. > On the other hand, there are a lot of commonalities, > we just have to make sure we don't try to force the code into one model > that doesn't really work just to make it look more like PCI VFIO. > But given that we now have code for platform device passthrough that works in both QEMU and the kernel side and is actually useful for people, is there a clear technical advantage to go back and rework thaat at this point? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of having a single driver bound to a platform device, and then that's it, but it just feels like that discussion doesn't necessarily belong in the context of a patch that 'just' seeks to add reset functionality for a specific device for VFIO? -Christoffer -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html