On 11/01/15 18:38, Christoffer Dall wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 06:27:35PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote: >> On 11 January 2015 at 17:58, Christoffer Dall >> <christoffer.dall@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 05:37:52PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote: >>>> On 11 January 2015 at 12:33, Christoffer Dall >>>> <christoffer.dall@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 03:28:58PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote: >>>>>> But implementations are allowed to hit in the cache even >>>>>> when the cache is disabled. In particular, setting the guest >>>>> >>>>> But how can it hit anything when the icache for the used VMID is >>>>> guaranteed to be clear (maybe that requires another full icache >>>>> invalidate for that VMID for PSCI reset)? >>>> >>>> The point is that at the moment we don't do anything to >>>> guarantee that we've cleared the icache. >>> >>> that's not entirely accurate, I assume all of the icache is >>> invalidated/cleaned at system bring-up time, and every time we re-use a >>> VMID (when we start a VMID rollover) we invalidate the entire icache. >> >> Right, but that doesn't catch the VM reset case, which is the >> one we're talking about. >> > > ok, so that's what you meant by warm reset, I see. > > Then I would think we should add that single invalidate on vcpu init > rather than flushing the icache on every page fault? > >>>> (Plus could there be >>>> stale data in the icache for this physical CPU for this VMID >>>> because we've run some other vCPU on it? Or does the process >>>> of rescheduling vCPUs across pCPUs and guest ASID management >>>> deal with that?) >>> >>> we don't clear the icache for vCPUs migrating onto other pCPUs but >>> invalidating the icache on a page fault won't guarantee that either. Do >>> we really need to do that? >> >> I don't think we do, but I haven't thought through exactly >> why we don't yet :-) >> > > So once you start a secondary vCPU that one can then hit in the icache > from what the primary vCPU put there which I guess is different behavior > from a physical secondary core coming out of reset with the MMU off and > never hitting the icache, right? > > And is this not also a different behavior from a native system once the > vCPUs have turned their MMUs on, but we just don't happen to observe it > as being a problem? > > In any case, I don't have a great solution for how to solve this except > for always invalidating the icache when we migrate a vCPU to a pCPU, but > that's really nasty... No, it only needs to happen once per vcpu, on any CPU. IC IALLUIS is broadcast across CPUs, so once it has taken place on the first CPU this vcpu runs on, we're good. Thanks, M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html