On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:18:37AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 09/19/2014 10:15 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:08:20AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >> On 09/19/2014 09:53 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > >>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:40:07AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >>>> On 09/19/2014 09:37 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Linux detects what hypervior it runs on very early > >>>> > >>>> Not anywhere close to early enough. We're talking for uses like kASLR. > >>>> > >>> Still to early to do: > >>> > >>> h = cpuid(HYPERVIOR_SIGNATURE) > >>> if (h == KVMKVMKVM) { > >>> if (cpuid(kvm_features) & kvm_rnd) > >>> rdmsr(kvm_rnd) > >>> else (h == HyperV) { > >>> if (cpuid(hv_features) & hv_rnd) > >>> rdmsr(hv_rnd) > >>> else (h == XenXenXen) { > >>> if (cpuid(xen_features) & xen_rnd) > >>> rdmsr(xen_rnd) > >>> } > >>> > >> > >> If we need to do chase loops, especially not so... > >> > > What loops exactly? As a non native English speaker I fail to understand > > if your answer is "yes" or "no" ;) > > > > The above isn't actually the full algorithm used. > What part of actually algorithm cannot be implemented? Loop that searches for KVM leaf in case KVM pretend to be HyperV (is this what you called "chase loops"?)? First of all there is no need to implement it, if KVM pretends to be HyperV use HyperV's way to obtain RNG, but what is the problem with the loop? -- Gleb. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html