[I'm still in the process of trying to grok the issues surrounding MTE+KVM, so apologies in advance if I'm muddying the waters] On Sat, Jun 25 2022, Steven Price <steven.price@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 24/06/2022 18:05, Catalin Marinas wrote: >> + Steven as he added the KVM and swap support for MTE. >> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 04:49:44PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote: >>> Certain VMMs such as crosvm have features (e.g. sandboxing, pmem) that >>> depend on being able to map guest memory as MAP_SHARED. The current >>> restriction on sharing MAP_SHARED pages with the guest is preventing >>> the use of those features with MTE. Therefore, remove this restriction. >> >> We already have some corner cases where the PG_mte_tagged logic fails >> even for MAP_PRIVATE (but page shared with CoW). Adding this on top for >> KVM MAP_SHARED will potentially make things worse (or hard to reason >> about; for example the VMM sets PROT_MTE as well). I'm more inclined to >> get rid of PG_mte_tagged altogether, always zero (or restore) the tags >> on user page allocation, copy them on write. For swap we can scan and if >> all tags are 0 and just skip saving them. >> >> Another aspect is a change in the KVM ABI with this patch. It's probably >> not that bad since it's rather a relaxation but it has the potential to >> confuse the VMM, especially as it doesn't know whether it's running on >> older kernels or not (it would have to probe unless we expose this info >> to the VMM in some other way). Which VMMs support KVM+MTE so far? (I'm looking at adding support in QEMU.) >> >>> To avoid races between multiple tasks attempting to clear tags on the >>> same page, introduce a new page flag, PG_mte_tag_clearing, and test-set it >>> atomically before beginning to clear tags on a page. If the flag was not >>> initially set, spin until the other task has finished clearing the tags. >> >> TBH, I can't mentally model all the corner cases, so maybe a formal >> model would help (I can have a go with TLA+, though not sure when I find >> a bit of time this summer). If we get rid of PG_mte_tagged altogether, >> this would simplify things (hopefully). >> >> As you noticed, the problem is that setting PG_mte_tagged and clearing >> (or restoring) the tags is not an atomic operation. There are places >> like mprotect() + CoW where one task can end up with stale tags. Another >> is shared memfd mappings if more than one mapping sets PROT_MTE and >> there's the swap restoring on top. >> >>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/mte.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/mte.c >>> index f6b00743c399..8f9655053a9f 100644 >>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/mte.c >>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/mte.c >>> @@ -57,7 +57,18 @@ static void mte_sync_page_tags(struct page *page, pte_t old_pte, >>> * the new page->flags are visible before the tags were updated. >>> */ >>> smp_wmb(); >>> - mte_clear_page_tags(page_address(page)); >>> + mte_ensure_page_tags_cleared(page); >>> +} >>> + >>> +void mte_ensure_page_tags_cleared(struct page *page) >>> +{ >>> + if (test_and_set_bit(PG_mte_tag_clearing, &page->flags)) { >>> + while (!test_bit(PG_mte_tagged, &page->flags)) >>> + ; >>> + } else { >>> + mte_clear_page_tags(page_address(page)); >>> + set_bit(PG_mte_tagged, &page->flags); >>> + } > > I'm pretty sure we need some form of barrier in here to ensure the tag > clearing is visible to the other CPU. Otherwise I can't immediately see > any problems with the approach of a second flag (it was something I had > considered). But I do also think we should seriously consider Catalin's > approach of simply zeroing tags unconditionally - it would certainly > simplify the code. What happens in kvm_vm_ioctl_mte_copy_tags()? I think we would just end up copying zeroes? That said, do we make any assumptions about when KVM_ARM_MTE_COPY_TAGS will be called? I.e. when implementing migration, it should be ok to call it while the vm is paused, but you probably won't get a consistent state while the vm is running? [Postcopy needs a different interface, I guess, so that the migration target can atomically place a received page and its metadata. I see https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAJc+Z1FZxSYB_zJit4+0uTR-88VqQL+-01XNMSEfua-dXDy6Wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/; has there been any follow-up?] _______________________________________________ kvmarm mailing list kvmarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm