On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 03:18:11PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 14:40, Andrew Jones <drjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:43:33PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > > > Well, ID regs are special in the architecture -- they always exist > > > and must RAZ/WI, even if they're not actually given any fields yet. > > > This is different from other "unused" parts of the system register > > > encoding space, which UNDEF. > > > > Table D12-2 confirms the register should be RAZ, as it says the register > > is "RO, but RAZ if SVE is not implemented". Does "RO" imply "WI", though? > > For the guest we inject an exception on writes, and for userspace we > > require the value to be preserved on write. > > Sorry, I mis-spoke. They're RAZ, but not WI, just RO (which is to say > they'll UNDEF if you try to write to them). > > > I think we should follow the spec, even for userspace access, and be RAZ > > for when the feature isn't implemented. As for writes, assuming the > > exception injection is what we want for the guest (not WI), then that's > > correct. For userspace, I think we should continue forcing preservation > > (which will force preservation of zero when it's RAZ). > > Yes, that sounds right. [...] > > > The problem is that you've actually removed registers from > > > the list that were previously in it (because pre-SVE > > > kernels put this ID register in the list as a RAZ/WI register, > > > and now it's not in the list if SVE isn't supported). Define "previously", though. IIUC, the full enumeration was added in v4.15 (with ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1 still not supported at all): v4.15-rc1~110^2~27 93390c0a1b20 ("arm64: KVM: Hide unsupported AArch64 CPU features from guests") And then ID_AA64FZR0_EL1 was removed from the enumeration, also in v4.15: v4.15-rc1~110^2~5 07d79fe7c223 ("arm64/sve: KVM: Hide SVE from CPU features exposed to guests") So, are there really two upstram kernel tags that are mismatched on this, or is this just a bisectability issue in v4.14..v4.15? It's a while since I looked at this, and I may have misunderstood the timeline. > > > > So, I think that instead of changing the ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1 behaviour, > > > > parhaps we should move all ID_UNALLOCATED() regs (and possibly > > > > ID_HIDDEN(), not sure about that) to have REG_HIDDEN_USER visibility. > > > > > > What does this do as far as the user-facing list-of-registers > > > is concerned? All these registers need to remain in the > > > KVM_GET_REG_LIST list, or you break migration from an old > > > kernel to a new one. OK, I think I see where you are coming from, now. It may make sense to get rid of the REG_HIDDEN_GUEST / REG_HIDDEN_USER distinction, and provide the same visibility for userspace as for MSR/ MRS all the time. This would restore ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1 into the userspace view, and may also allow a bit of simplification in the code. Won't this will still break migration from the resulting kernel to a current kernel that hides ID_AA64ZFR0_EL1? Or have I misunderstood something. Cheers ---Dave _______________________________________________ kvmarm mailing list kvmarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm