Hi, On 9/17/20 9:42 AM, Marc Zyngier wrote: > On 2020-09-17 09:04, Andrew Jones wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 08:47:42AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote: >>> On 2020-09-17 03:30, Ying Fang wrote: >>> > Allow userspace to set MPIDR using vcpu ioctl KVM_ARM_SET_MP_AFFINITY, >>> > so that we can support cpu topology for arm. >>> >>> MPIDR has *nothing* to do with CPU topology in the ARM architecture. >>> I encourage you to have a look at the ARM ARM and find out how often >>> the word "topology" is used in conjunction with the MPIDR_EL1 register. >>> >> >> Hi Marc, >> >> I mostly agree. However, the CPU topology descriptions use MPIDR to >> identify PEs. If userspace wants to build topology descriptions then >> it either needs to >> >> 1) build them after instantiating all KVM VCPUs in order to query KVM >> for each MPIDR, or >> 2) have a way to ask KVM for an MPIDR of given VCPU ID in advance >> (maybe just a scratch VCPU), or >> 3) have control over the MPIDRs so it can choose them when it likes, >> use them for topology descriptions, and then instantiate KVM VCPUs >> with them. >> >> I think (3) is the most robust approach, and it has the least overhead. > > I don't disagree with the goal, and not even with the choice of > implementation (though I have huge reservations about its quality). > > But the key word here is *userspace*. Only userspace has a notion of > how MPIDR values map to the assumed topology. That's not something > that KVM does nor should interpret (aside from the GIC-induced Aff0 > brain-damage). So talking of "topology" in a KVM kernel patch sends > the wrong message, and that's all this remark was about. There's also a patch queued for next which removes using MPIDR as a source of information about CPU topology [1]: "arm64: topology: Stop using MPIDR for topology information". I'm not really sure how useful KVM fiddling with the guest MPIDR will be going forward, at least for a Linux guest. [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux.git/commit/?id=3102bc0e6ac7 Thanks, Alex _______________________________________________ kvmarm mailing list kvmarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm
