On 12/7/18 12:39 PM, Kristina Martsenko wrote: > When pointer authentication is in use, data/instruction pointers have a > number of PAC bits inserted into them. The number and position of these > bits depends on the configured TCR_ELx.TxSZ and whether tagging is > enabled. ARMv8.3 allows tagging to differ for instruction and data > pointers. At this point I think it's worth starting a discussion about pointer tagging, and how we can make it controllable and not mandatory. With this patch set, we are enabling 7 authentication bits: [54:48]. However, it won't be too long before someone implements support for ARMv8.2-LVA, at which point, without changes to mandatory pointer tagging, we will only have 3 authentication bits: [54:52]. This seems useless and easily brute-force-able. I assume that pointer tagging is primarily used by Android, since I'm not aware of anything else that uses it at all. Unfortunately, there is no obvious path to making this optional that does not break compatibility with Documentation/arm64/tagged-pointers.txt. I've been thinking that there ought to be some sort of global setting, akin to /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space, as well as a prctl which an application could use to selectively enable TBI/TBID for an application that actually uses tagging. The global /proc setting allows the default to remain 1, which would let any application using tagging to continue working. If there are none, the sysadmin can set the default to 0. Going forward, applications could be updated to use the prctl, allowing more systems to set the default to 0. FWIW, pointer authentication continues to work when enabling TBI, but not the other way around. Thus the prctl could be used to enable TBI at any point, but if libc is built with PAuth, there's no way to turn it back off again. r~ _______________________________________________ kvmarm mailing list kvmarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm