Re: [Question] Can KVM run on Freescale IMX6 SABRE board?

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2016-02-26 2:54 GMT-05:00 Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:45:45PM -0500, xu mike wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> 2016-02-25 10:30 GMT-05:00 Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >
>> > On 25 February 2016 at 15:17, xu mike <upennmike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > I'm a student from the University of Pennsylvania. I want to try KVM on ARM
>> > > boards.
>> > >
>> > > I have a Freescale IMX6 board [1] which has ARM Cortex A9 processors.
>> > > I'm wondering if KVM can run on the Freescale IMX6 board? or
>> > > Can KVM run on any ARM board with ARM Cortex A9 processors?
>> > >
>> > > I noticed at [2] that " KVM/ARM is designed specifically to work on ARM
>> > > processors with the virtualization extensions enabled to run unmodified
>> > > guest operating systems."
>> > > I'm wondering if this statement is still true?
>> >
>> > Yes, it is. You need a CPU with the virtualization extensions,
>> > and the A9 does not have them. You want (for instance) an A15
>> > or an A7. There are cheap A7-based development boards out there,
>> > for instance the CubieTruck (which is not very fast but can run
>> > a mainline Linux kernel and KVM so is a reasonable getting-started
>> > development platform).
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much for your quick reply!
>>
>> I'm wondering if KVM community has any plan to make KVM compatible
>> with Cortex A9 processors?
>>
>
> Not that I'm aware, no.
>
>> If someone, with linux scheduler development experiment but without
>> porting experiment, wants to port KVM to Cortex A9,  how hard could it
>> be to port KVM onto Cortex A9 processor?
>
> As Peter said, ARM is not a virtualizable architecture, so you need
> hardware support for virtualization to run hypervisors on an ARM system.
>
> Cortex-A9 does not have this support.
>
> You could implement something using either binary translation or
> paravirtualization, but neither is something we're immediately
> interested in accepting in mainline Linux.

Right. I couldn't estimate how hard it will be to achieve the
paravirtualization/binary translation in KVM.. Probably it may involve
a lot of (assembly) code, since it requires to de-privilege those
privileged instructions. :-(

>
> What is your use-case for running on A9 specifically, as opposed to a
> CPU with virt support?

The reason why I have to use A9 is because A9 has the special cache
controller, called PL310 cache controller, which is not supported in
A7 or A15. I want to use the special cache controller in
virtualization environment. That's why I'm so addicted to A9. :-(
If there is some latest ARM processor that has the PL310 cache
controller and virtulaizaiton extension support, that will be awesome!
However, I'm unaware of the ideal ARM processors. :-( Do you happen to
know?

Thank you so much for your time and help in this question!

Best,

Mike
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