Re: [RFC PATCH v5 0/3] vfio: platform: return device properties for a platform device

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On 5 October 2015 at 10:37, Christoffer Dall
<christoffer.dall@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:53:07PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>  * I don't really want to build in a lot of infrastructure into
>>    QEMU to either build the DTC compiler into it or else introduce
>>    a runtime dependency on the dtc binary
>
> what level of complexity are we really talking about here?  Doesn't QEMU
> already link against libfdt and doesn't it support exactly what we're
> trying to do here?

We link against libfdt, but libfdt is for manipulating and creating
dt binary blobs. As I understand it what sysfs exposes to userspace
is not a dt binary blob (or fragment thereof) but a bit of dt source.
libfdt doesn't do parsing of source into blobs; that is done by the
dtc compiler, which QEMU doesn't currently build and which is set
up to build only a separate command line binary anyway, not to be
a utility library for compiling dt sources.

Do correct me if I'm wrong about the sysfs interface -- if it is
just exposing dt blobs that would be easier to deal with.

> I also don't think this is the job of VFIO, assuming there is some
> better place to do this.  I initially thought exposing device properties
> in some canonical format from sysfs independently from whether the
> system was booted with ACPI or DT was the right thing to do, but the
> counter argument to this was essentially that the guest kernel needs the
> same description as the host kernel and therefore we really have to find
> a way to pass the HW description bits on to the guest.

So we end up with even more code to pass through ACPI table
fragments as well :-(

>> (except "don't do device passthrough for platform devices, insist
>> on a real bus like PCI"...)
>>
> While I appreciate the simplicity of this solution from our
> (maintainers') point of view, I still see the latter point as relatively
> moot.  We have hardware with 10G platform ethernet devices that people
> want to do device assignment on already, and I think we should try to
> find a reasonable set of boundaries for setups that we can support
> upstream instead of this becoming a black hole of derivative code bases
> to do this sort of thing.

Yeah, speaking more seriously I agree we do need to do something
here. It's just all irritatingly awkward...

thanks
-- PMM
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