Re: [PATCH 1/2] ARM: kvm: define PAGE_S2_DEVICE as read-only by default

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On 2014-09-14 05:49, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
On 13 September 2014 19:06, Christoffer Dall
<christoffer.dall@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 01:15:45PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
On 13 September 2014 12:41, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Ard,
>
> On 2014-09-13 11:17, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>
>> Now that we support read-only memslots, we need to make sure that >> pass-through device mappings are not mapped writable if the guest
>> has requested them to be read-only. The existing implementation
>> already honours this by calling kvm_set_s2pte_writable() on the new
>> pte in case of writable mappings, so all we need to do is define
>> the default pgprot_t value used for devices to be PTE_S2_RDONLY.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> I feel very uncomfortable with this change. Why would we map a device RO? Is
> that only for completeness sake?
>

We would map a device RO so that QEMU (or whatever is managing KVM)
can emulate the writes. I don't have a clear cut use case, to be
honest, but setting up a writable mapping for a memslot that was
explicitly set up as read-only seems wrong in any case.

Agreed, if it doesn't ever make sense to do so, then we should return an
error to user space if userspace attempts such a configuration.  The
current code is just weird.


Note that the particular problem I was seeing was primarily caused by kvm_is_mmio_pfn()'s false positive on the zero page, but it unveiled
this particular issue as well.

> Note that we also use PAGE_S2_DEVICE for things that are not mapped through
> a memslot, such as the GIC.
>

Yes, and I realize now that this breaks it.
My apologies: I have an additional patch locally that sets up MMIO
ranges in one go instead of faulting them in one page at a time as we
do now, and there the read-write case is handled correctly in
kvm_phys_addr_ioremap(). However, I thought it was better to send
these out separately first, but apparently not.

I think it is better to change this separately, and then add the ioremap stuff. However, you need to change all places that call PAGE_S2_DEVICE
and expect a RDWR memory region, this happens to be only
kvm_phys_addr_ioremap() for now.


So if we can agree on whether or not MMIO backed mappings should be
read-write even if the memslot says no, I will follow up with a proper
series if there are still changes required.


I guess it could be theoretically useful to have read-only device memory
regions, and I can't think of why it would violate the architecture.


We have to handle it either way. But after reading D4.5.3 (Table
D4-40) of the ARM ARM, I am wondering why we needed patch b88657674d39
"ARM: KVM: user_mem_abort: support stage 2 MMIO page mapping" in the
first place, and we could just revert that patch and everything would
work as expected. (In short, D4.5.3 says that MT_DEVICE trumps
MT_NORMAL, so if the stage 1 translation is MT_DEVICE, it doesn't
matter what memtype the S2 translation specifies)

We've been there before:
https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/kvmarm/2013-May/004420.html

That said, I don't have any more clear use cases in mind, and we
definitely shouldn't just silently ignore the read-only flag from user
space and make the region writeable.  If we don't want to allow this
behavior, we can return an error in kvm_arch_create_memslot(), which
will cause the KVM_CREATE_USER_MEMORY_REGION ioctl to return -ENOMEM.


Well, I am not sure how easy it is to find out beforehand (i.e., at
ioctl time) what the nature of the backing is, and you have to deal
with hva_to_pfn() potentially returning a VM_PFNMAP pfn or
PageReserved pages anyway.
So just mapping everything as MT_NORMAL actually seems like the sanest
thing to do, so imo we should revert the patch. The only other
question I had is whether it would be better to map a MMIO region in
one go, but we can discuss that separately.

Aside from the MT_NORMAL thing, the only saving we'd get by dynamically maping MMIO regions would be the page tables. Not very useful in my opinion.

Thanks,

        M.
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