Hi Marc,
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2013-08-15 14:31, Anup Patel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2013-08-15 07:26, Anup Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marc,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Anup,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-08-14 15:22, Anup Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Pranav,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2013-08-14 12:47, Pranavkumar Sawargaonkar wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Systems with large external L3-cache (few MBs), might have dirty
>>>>>>>> content belonging to the guest page in L3-cache. To tackle this,
>>>>>>>> we need to flush such dirty content from d-cache so that guest
>>>>>>>> will see correct contents of guest page when guest MMU is disabled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The patch fixes coherent_icache_guest_page() for external L3-cache.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Pranavkumar Sawargaonkar <pranavkumar@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Anup Patel <anup.patel@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h | 2 ++
>>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
>>>>>>>> b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
>>>>>>>> index efe609c..5129038 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
>>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_mmu.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -123,6 +123,8 @@ static inline void
>>>>>>>> coherent_icache_guest_page(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
>>>>>>>> if (!icache_is_aliasing()) { /* PIPT */
>>>>>>>> unsigned long hva = gfn_to_hva(kvm, gfn);
>>>>>>>> flush_icache_range(hva, hva + PAGE_SIZE);
>>>>>>>> + /* Flush d-cache for systems with external caches. */
>>>>>>>> + __flush_dcache_area((void *) hva, PAGE_SIZE);
>>>>>>>> } else if (!icache_is_aivivt()) { /* non ASID-tagged
>>>>>>>> VIVT
>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>> /* any kind of VIPT cache */
>>>>>>>> __flush_icache_all();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [adding Will to the discussion as we talked about this in the past]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's definitely an issue, but I'm not sure the fix is to hit the
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> cache on each page mapping. It looks overkill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be enough to let userspace do the cache cleaning?
>>>>>>> kvmtools
>>>>>>> knows which bits of the guest memory have been touched, and can do a
>>>>>>> "DC
>>>>>>> DVAC" on this region.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems a bit unnatural to have cache cleaning is user-space. I am
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> other architectures don't have such cache cleaning in user-space for
>>>>>> KVM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The alternative is do it in the kernel before running any vcpu - but
>>>>>>> that's not very nice either (have to clean the whole of the guest
>>>>>>> memory, which makes a full dcache clean more appealing).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, cleaning full d-cache by set/way upon first run of VCPU was
>>>>>> our second option but current approach seemed very simple hence
>>>>>> we went for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If more people vote for full d-cache clean upon first run of VCPU then
>>>>>> we should revise this patch.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please give the attached patch a spin on your HW? I've
>>>>> boot-tested
>>>>> it on a model, but of course I can't really verify that it fixes your
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can see, it should fix it without any additional flushing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know how it goes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HCR_EL2.DC=1 means all memory access for Stage1 MMU off are
>>>> treated as "Normal Non-shareable, Inner Write-Back Write-Allocate,
>>>> Outer Write-Back Write-Allocate memory"
>>>>
>>>> HCR_EL2.DC=0 means all memory access for Stage1 MMU off are
>>>> treated as "Strongly-ordered device memory"
>>>>
>>>> Now if Guest/VM access hardware MMIO devices directly (such as
>>>> VGIC CPU interface) with MMU off then MMIO devices will be
>>>> accessed as normal memory when HCR_EL2.DC=1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think so. Stage-2 still applies, and should force MMIO to be
>>> accessed as device memory.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The HCR_EL2.DC=1 makes sense only if we have all software
>>>> emulated devices for Guest/VM which is not true for KVM ARM or
>>>> KVM ARM64 because we use VGIC.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, this patch enforces incorrect memory attribute for Guest/VM
>>>> when Stage1 MMU is off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See above. My understanding is that HCR.DC controls the default output of
>>> Stage-1, and Stage-2 overrides still apply.
>>
>>
>> You had mentioned that PAGE_S2_DEVICE attribute was redundant
>> and wanted guest to decide the memory attribute. In other words, you
>> did not want to enforce any memory attribute in Stage2.
>>
>> Please refer to this patch https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2543201/
>
>
> This patch has never been merged. If you carry on following the discussion,
> you will certainly notice it was dropped for a very good reason:
> https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/kvmarm/2013-May/005827.html
>
> So Stage-2 memory attributes are used, they are not going away, and they are
> essential to the patch I sent this morning.
>
>
> M.
> --
> Fast, cheap, reliable. Pick two.
HCR_EL2.DC=1 will break Guest/VM bootloader/firmware if the Guest/VM is
provided a DMA-capable device in pass-through mode. The reason being
bootloader/firmware typically don't enable MMU and such bootloader/firmware
will programme a pass-through DMA-capable device without any flushes to
guest RAM (because it has not enabled MMU).
A good example of such a device would be SATA AHCI controller given to a
Guest/VM as direct access (using SystemMMU) and Guest bootloader/firmware
accessing this SATA AHCI controller to load kernel images from SATA disk.
In this situation, we will have to hack Guest bootloader/firmware AHCI driver to
explicitly flushes to Guest RAM (because have HCR_EL2.DC=1).
Regards,
Anup
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