Re: [RESEND PATCH 1/2] dt-ops: Add helper API to dump fdt blob

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Hi Akashi, Bhupesh,

On 27/03/18 10:04, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 02:29:31PM +0530, Bhupesh Sharma wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Bhupesh Sharma <bhsharma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:15 PM, AKASHI Takahiro
>>> <takahiro.akashi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 04:05:38PM +0530, Bhupesh Sharma wrote:
>>>>> At several occasions it would be useful to dump the fdt
>>>>> blob being passed to the second (kexec/kdump) kernel
>>>>> when '-d' flag is specified while invoking kexec/kdump.
>>>>
>>>> Why not just save binary data to a file and interpret it
>>>> with dtc command?

I'd prefer this too. It would also let us debug any issue where kexec-tools
produces an invalid DTB. It also lets us test booting the kernel from firmware
with that DTB.


>>> Well, there are a couple of reasons for that which can be understood
>>> from a system which is in a production environment (for e.g. I have
>>> worked on one arm64 system in the past which used a yocto based
>>> distribution in which kexec -p was launched with a -d option as a part
>>> of initial ramfs scriptware):

and panics before you get an interactive prompt or persistent storage? I think
this would be a pretty niche use-case. You could always base64-dump the dtb to
stdout from your script.


>>> - In a production environment, installing and executing tools like dtc
>>> (which might not have been installed by default via 'yum' or 'apt-get
>>> install' or other means is not only an additional step, but we might
>>> not get a chance to run it even if it is installed if we have a early
>>> crash in kdump itself (for e.g. consider the 'acpi table access' issue
>>> in the arm64 crashkernel we discussed some time back
>>> <https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg616632.html>):

Wouldn't it be possible to transfer the dumped DTB file off the machine before
the behaviour that brings the machine down? Kdump always requires a setup step
to load the kdump kernel/dtb. You have to decide to add the debug flags at this
point. I don't see how choosing to save the modified-DTB would be any different.

I assume the flow here is: do thingX, the kernel crashes. Enable kdump, do
thingX, kdump fails to boot. Enable kdump-debug. Do thingX...


>>> a) In such a case the primary kernel has already crashed, so we had no
>>> opportunity to run a dtc interpreter there and the kdump kernel itself
>>> has crashed in a very early boot phase. So we didn't get a chance to
>>> execute 'dtc' on the kdump kernel command prompt (if the kdump scripts
>>> are configured not to reboot the primary again).

Transfer it off the machine, save it somewhere persistent or print it to stdout
in base64.


>>> b) Also when an early arm64 kdump crash is reported by a customer, we
>>> usually only have access to the primary and secondary console log
>>> which also might include the 'kexec -p -d' log messages, which can
>>> point us to a discrepancy in dtc nodes like 'linux,usable-memory"
>>> which might have caused a early crashkernel crash.

>>> Personally, so-far I have found this dtb dumping facility of use in
>>> debugging atleast a couple of arm64 crashkernel crash/panic issues.
>>> Till the arm64 kexec/kdump implementation matures further, I feel this
>>> dumping facility is of good use to ease crashkernel panic debugs.
>>
>> Ping. Do you have any further comments on it?
> 
> No.
> While I don't think dumping fdt is so useful as "kexec -d" option
> outputs enough information for me, you can go ahead.

(likewise)


Thanks,

James

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