On 11/12/2014 10:03 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote: > On 11/12/14 15:48, Christopher Covington wrote: >> Thanks Petr and Laszlo for entertaining my questions. I've got one last one if >> you have the time. >> >> On 11/12/2014 09:10 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote: >>> On 11/12/14 14:26, Petr Tesarik wrote: >>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:18:04 -0500 >>>> Christopher Covington <cov at codeaurora.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/12/2014 03:05 AM, Petr Tesarik wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:27:44 -0500 >>>>>> Christopher Covington <cov at codeaurora.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/11/2014 06:22 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote: >>>>>>>> (Note: I'm not subscribed to either qemu-devel or the kexec list; please >>>>>>>> keep me CC'd.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> QEMU is able to dump the guest's memory in KDUMP format (kdump-zlib, >>>>>>>> kdump-lzo, kdump-snappy) with the "dump-guest-memory" QMP command. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The resultant vmcore is usually analyzed with the "crash" utility. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The original tool producing such files is kdump. Unlike the procedure >>>>>>>> performed by QEMU, kdump runs from *within* the guest (under a kexec'd >>>>>>>> kdump kernel), and has more information about the original guest kernel >>>>>>>> state (which is being dumped) than QEMU. To QEMU, the guest kernel state >>>>>>>> is opaque. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For this reason, the kdump preparation logic in QEMU hardcodes a number >>>>>>>> of fields in the kdump header. The direct issue is the "phys_base" >>>>>>>> field. Refer to dump.c, functions create_header32(), create_header64(), >>>>>>>> and "include/sysemu/dump.h", macro PHYS_BASE (with the replacement text >>>>>>>> "0"). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=dump.c;h=9c7dad8f865af3b778589dd0847e450ba9a75b9d;hb=HEAD >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=include/sysemu/dump.h;h=7e4ec5c7d96fb39c943d970d1683aa2dc171c933;hb=HEAD >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This works in most cases, because the guest Linux kernel indeed tends to >>>>>>>> be loaded at guest-phys address 0. However, when the guest Linux kernel >>>>>>>> is booted on top of OVMF (which has a somewhat unusual UEFI memory map), >>>>>>>> then the guest Linux kernel is loaded at 16MB, thereby getting out of >>>>>>>> sync with the phys_base=0 setting visible in the KDUMP header. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This trips up the "crash" utility. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave worked around the issue in "crash" for ELF format dumps -- "crash" >>>>>>>> can identify QEMU as the originator of the vmcore by finding the QEMU >>>>>>>> notes in the ELF vmcore. If those are present, then "crash" employs a >>>>>>>> heuristic, probing for a phys_base up to 32MB, in 1MB steps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What advantages does KDUMP have over ELF? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's smaller (data is compressed), and it contains a header with some >>>>>> useful information (e.g. the crashed kernel's version and release). >>> >>> Another advantage is that all zero-filled pages are represented in the >>> kdump file by one shared zero page. >>> >>> The difference in speed of dumping is stunning. >> >> Would you expect using SHT_NOBITS to give a similar speedup to the ELF dumper? > > Sorry, I don't know what SHT_NOBITS is. My newbie understanding is that SHT_NOBITS is the section type of the .bss section in an everyday executable. It's what makes the section only need a header table entry in the ELF file, and not sh_size (Size) worth of zeros. The ELF loader will essentially zero memory beginning at sh_addr (Address) for sh_size (Size). http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22855320/address-space-of-a-bss-section-space-in-elf-file http://people.redhat.com/mpolacek/src/devconf2012.pdf Chris -- Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project