Adding Leif... On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Geoff Levand <geoff at infradead.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 13:27 +0100, Mark Rutland wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:59:38AM +0100, Grant Likely wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland at arm.com> wrote: >> > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:10:58AM +0100, Geoff Levand wrote: >> > >> Device tree regions described by /memreserve/ entries are not available in >> > >> /proc/device-tree, and hence are not available to user space utilities that use >> > >> /proc/device-tree. In order for these regions to be available, convert any >> > >> arm64 DTS files using /memreserve/ entries to use reserved-memory nodes. >> > > >> > > The limitation here is in the kernel (and a partially in userspace), so >> > > modifying the dts files is a workaround rather than a fix. >> > > >> > > It's perfectly valid for people to remain using /memreserve/, so this >> > > isn't sufficient. There are also existing DTBs using /memreserve/ which >> > > we can't rely on being modified to use reserved-memory. >> > > >> > > I think we need to expose memreserves to userspace somehow, potentially >> > > along with other DTB header fields. Grant, ideas? >> > >> > Yes, I suggested the same thing to Geoff in a separate thread. Here's >> > what I wrote: >> > >> > >> Geoff Levand wrote: >> > >>> I did some work on this and I think we just need to convert all the >> > >>> arm64 dts from /memreserve/ to reserved-memory nodes and update the >> > >>> arm64 booting.txt to specify using reserved-memory. I'll prepare a >> > >>> patch for it. >> > >> >> > >> I don't think that is going to be entirely sufficient. There will be >> > >> platforms that don't get converted over, and this is a generic problem >> > >> that covers all architectures using DT, not just aarch64. The solution >> > >> probably needs to include exposing the /memreserve/ sections to >> > >> userspace. I can see two ways to do this: >> > >> >> > >> 1) Create a new property in /sysfs with all the memreserve sctions >> > >> 2) Live-modify the device tree to put the memreserve data into a node >> > >> at boot time. >> > >> >> > >> Option 2 is probably the most generic solution, but it will require >> > >> some care to make sure there aren't any overlaps if a reserved-memory >> > >> node already exists. >> >> I would prefer the former currently. While I currently believe that >> modifying the tree is something we're going to have to do for stateful >> properties, it's not someting I want to have to do unless absolutely >> necessary. > > Current user space kexec utilities use /proc/device-tree and nothing > else. The intension of the device tree is to describe the system > sufficiently for a kernel to boot, so I think we should put the > /memreserve/ info into /proc/device-tree. > > We could put the /memreserve/ entries in there directly, or convert > to reserved-memory nodes. At the moment I like the idea to convert to > reserved-memory nodes. I'm just wondering does UEFI being used for the memory information have any impact here as the DT would not have valid memory nodes either? I'd assume reserved memory comes from UEFI (or both) in that case? Perhaps we need to expose memory layout independent of DT, UEFI or anything else. Rob > >> > > For reference, here is an old conversation about this exact thing. >> > > Reading through it, the opinions I expressed then don't necessarily >> > > match what I think now. I still don't think it is a good idea to >> > > expose the physical address of the old .dtb blob, but I do agree that >> > > the memreserve sections need to be exposed. >> > > >> > > https://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/linuxppc-dev/2010-July/083993.html >> >> Another option would be to expose the original DTB as a (read-only) >> binary file somewhere. That might interact poorly with live tree >> modification in future, however. > > I don't like the idea of having two interfaces to get essentially the same > info. I think it will be a maintenance problem over time. > > -Geoff > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-arm-kernel mailing list > linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
