Joerg Roedel <joro at 8bytes.org> writes: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 10:49:09AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> Joerg Roedel <joro at 8bytes.org> writes: > >> > Another problem: This also breaks if the kdump kernel has no >> > iommu-support. >> >> Not a problem. We require a lot of things of the kdump kernel, >> and it is immediately apparent in a basic sanity test. > > Only if the sanity test is done on an iommu machine which I don't want > to rely on. That makes no sense. The requirements on the kdump kernel has always been that it somehow figure out to recover a machine that is in a random hardware state. That requires drivers for the hardware, that is critical to the machines operation. The easy test for sysadmins is to do: echo > /proc/sysrq-trigger Anyone who thinks the result from one piece of hardware applies to another is deluded. We have been down the path of doing lots of things in the crashing kernel with lkcd, in practice it was worthless in the event of real world crashes. kexec on panic isn't perfect but it at least is an architecture that works often enough to be usable. It does require testing to make certain the basic code paths don't regress, but even so it is a lot easier to maintain and keep useful than any alternative I know of. Eric