-------------------------------------------------- Here is a message for you from http://web2mail.com The easy way to read and send POP email on the web -------------------------------------------------- Vivek, Thank you for your reply. I can't really say what our application is, as I'm a contractor and paid to keep my mouth shut. As for the question of kexec as a library. yes it would be easier for me, but we are not always paid to do the easy thing. My client wants to be sure that it is difficult for others to find the payload of kexec. that means not writing it to a file. I also think that enough applications will eventually exist out there that want to restart the OS that a library call is warrented. Other questions:.. what happened to lists.infradead.org? seems to have been vaporized. more importantly, yes, I've read in the archives that Eric gave up on calling bios after linux. Was this because linux stomped on the state of bios, or that linux (its drivers really) leaves the physical hardware (devices) in such an undeterminate state such that bios cannot handle the sudden change or complicated confiuration. Before you answer, that last one, I realize that it is largely symantic, but what I mean is that is this more of a problem inherent in how some bios' are not well behaved and should be fixed or is it that linux does not close down nicely and therefore should be fixed? we will never shutdown as in the case of a crash dump, but rather do our best to clean up after ourselves. Thus, we probably don't have a problem fixing a bug or two to make that happen so bios runs. on the other hand the decision makers want to avoid having a whole army of people fixing drivers to make them turn off correctly. (or better, am I on a fools errend or should I keep up the fight?) well, thanks for your input. Mike ps sorry for not quoting the original email, I'm not on my normal computer and am writing from web2mail :[