2009/10/27 Mel Gorman <mel@xxxxxxxxx>: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:06:09PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: >> On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Mel Gorman wrote: >> > I've attached a patch below that should allow us to cheat. When it's >> > applied, it outputs who called congestion_wait(), how long the timeout >> > was and how long it waited for. By comparing before and after sleep >> > times, we should be able to see which of the callers has significantly >> > changed and if it's something easily addressable. >> >> The results from this look fairly interesting (although I may be a bad >> judge as I don't really know what I'm looking at ;-). >> >> I've tested with two kernels: >> 1) 2.6.31.1: 1 test run >> 2) 2.6.31.1 + congestion_wait() reverts: 2 test runs >> >> The 1st kernel had the expected "freeze" while reading commits in gitk; >> reading commits with the 2nd kernel was more fluent. >> I did 2 runs with the 2nd kernel as the first run had a fairly long music >> skip and more SKB errors than expected. The second run was fairly normal >> with no music skips at all even though it had a few SKB errors. >> >> Data for the tests: >> 1st kernel 2nd kernel 1 2nd kernel 2 >> end reading commits 1:15 1:00 0:55 >> "freeze" yes no no >> branch data shown 1:55 1:15 1:10 >> system quiet 2:25 1:50 1:45 >> # SKB allocation errors 10 53 5 >> >> Note that the test is substantially faster with the 2nd kernel and that the >> SKB errors don't really affect the duration of the test. >> > > Ok. I think that despite expectations, the writeback changes have > changed the timing significantly enough to be worth examining closer. > >> >> - without the revert 'background_writeout' is called a lot less frequently, >> but when it's called it gets long delays >> - without the revert you have 'wb_kupdate', which is relatively expensive >> - with the revert 'shrink_list' is relatively expensive, although not >> really in absolute terms >> > > Lets look at the callers that waited in congestion_wait() for at least > 25 jiffies. > > 2.6.31.1-async-sync-congestion-wait i.e. vanilla kernel > generated with: cat kern.log_1_test | awk -F ] '{print $2}' | sort -k 5 -n | uniq -c > 24 background_writeout congestion_wait sync=0 delay 25 timeout 25 > 203 kswapd congestion_wait sync=0 delay 25 timeout 25 > 5 shrink_list congestion_wait sync=0 delay 25 timeout 25 > 155 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait sync=0 delay 25 timeout 25 > 145 wb_kupdate congestion_wait sync=0 delay 25 timeout 25 > 2 kswapd congestion_wait sync=0 delay 26 timeout 25 > 8 wb_kupdate congestion_wait sync=0 delay 26 timeout 25 > 1 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait sync=0 delay 54 timeout 25 > > 2.6.31.1-write-congestion-wait i.e. kernel with patch reverted > generated with: cat kern.log_2.1_test | awk -F ] '{print $2}' | sort -k 5 -n | uniq -c > 2 background_writeout congestion_wait rw=1 delay 25 timeout 25 > 188 kswapd congestion_wait rw=1 delay 25 timeout 25 > 14 shrink_list congestion_wait rw=1 delay 25 timeout 25 > 181 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait rw=1 delay 25 timeout 25 > 5 kswapd congestion_wait rw=1 delay 26 timeout 25 > 10 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait rw=1 delay 26 timeout 25 > 3 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait rw=1 delay 27 timeout 25 > 1 kswapd congestion_wait rw=1 delay 29 timeout 25 > 1 __alloc_pages_nodemask congestion_wait rw=1 delay 30 timeout 5 > 1 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait rw=1 delay 31 timeout 25 > 1 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait rw=1 delay 35 timeout 25 > 1 kswapd congestion_wait rw=1 delay 51 timeout 25 > 1 try_to_free_pages congestion_wait rw=1 delay 56 timeout 25 > > So, wb_kupdate and background_writeout are the big movers in terms of waiting, > not the direct reclaimers which is what we were expecting. Of those big > movers, wb_kupdate is the most interested because compare the following > > $ cat kern.log_2.1_test | awk -F ] '{print $2}' | sort -k 5 -n | uniq -c | grep wb_kup > [ no output ] > $ $ cat kern.log_1_test | awk -F ] '{print $2}' | sort -k 5 -n | uniq -c | grep wb_kup > 1 wb_kupdate congestion_wait sync=0 delay 15 timeout 25 > 1 wb_kupdate congestion_wait sync=0 delay 23 timeout 25 > 145 wb_kupdate congestion_wait sync=0 delay 25 timeout 25 > 8 wb_kupdate congestion_wait sync=0 delay 26 timeout 25 > > The vanilla kernel is not waiting in wb_kupdate at all. > > Jens, before the congestion_wait() changes, wb_kupdate was waiting on > congestion and afterwards it's not. Furthermore, look at the number of pages > that are queued for writeback in the two page allocation failure reports. > > without-revert: writeback:65653 > with-revert: writeback:21713 > > So, after the move to async/sync, a lot more pages are getting queued > for writeback - more than three times the number of pages are queued for > writeback with the vanilla kernel. This amount of congestion might be why > direct reclaimers and kswapd's timings have changed so much. > > Chris Mason hinted at this but I didn't quite "get it" at the time but is it > possible that writeback_inodes() is converting what is expected to be async > IO into sync IO? One way of checking this is if Frans could test the patch > below that makes wb_kupdate wait on sync instead of async. > > If this makes a difference, I think the three main areas of trouble we > are now seeing are > > 1. page allocator regressions - mostly fixed hopefully > 2. page writeback change in timing - theory yet to be confirmed > 3. drivers using more atomics - iwlagn specific, being dealt with > > Of course, the big problem is if the changes are due to major timing > differences in page writeback, then mainline is a totally different > shape of problem as pdflush has been replaced there. > > ==== > Have wb_kupdate wait on sync IO congestion instead of async > > wb_kupdate is expected to only have queued up pages for async IO. > However, something screwy is happening because it never appears to go to > sleep. Frans, can you test with this patch instead of the revert please? > Preferably, keep the verbose-congestion_wait patch applied so we can > still get an idea who is going to sleep and for how long when calling > congestion_wait. thanks > > Not-signed-off-hacket-job: Mel Gorman <mel@xxxxxxxxx> > --- > > diff --git a/mm/page-writeback.c b/mm/page-writeback.c > index 81627eb..cb646dd 100644 > --- a/mm/page-writeback.c > +++ b/mm/page-writeback.c > @@ -787,7 +787,7 @@ static void wb_kupdate(unsigned long arg) > writeback_inodes(&wbc); > if (wbc.nr_to_write > 0) { > if (wbc.encountered_congestion || wbc.more_io) > - congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10); > + congestion_wait(BLK_RW_SYNC, HZ/10); > else > break; /* All the old data is written */ > } Hmm, This doesn't looks correct to me. BLK_RW_ASYNC mean async write. BLK_RW_SYNC mean read and sync-write. wb_kupdate use WB_SYNC_NONE. it's async write. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kernel-testers" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html