On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 07:58:17PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Sun, 9 Nov 2008 16:13:23 +0100, > Andreas Mohr wrote: > > OK, _THIS_ time I actually did get the correct model (last time I tried > > modprobe with model=acer-aspire, but apparently it then used the > > /etc/modprobe.d/ model=toshiba setting, since this time gamix showed > > entirely different controls with i-Mic etc.) - all the more reason to > > log the model name chosen/selected by the driver!! > > Build with the debug option (why turned off even if you *are* > debugging?). Then the driver will show you details. Hmm, right, that would have been an (very useful) option, but not for the majority of users OTOH. Especially since this is a user-visible module parameter which should thus be confirmed in mainstream user code, via logging. Admittedly not many modules log their settings during startup, but for snd_hda_intel with its two myriads of codec/machine variants and a resulting quarter myriad of issues that would be very useful. > > --> I have to admit that usability sucks^Hcould be a lot better. > > One would call it rather debuggability than usability. > These are completely different things. See above ;) > > i-Mic on Ekiga with lotsa mixer fiddling didn't work either this time. > > OK, then something is missing. But you should test by arecord first > than any complicated applications as a primary test. Good point, will do. Oh, and is there a way to manually alter codec registers? > Anyway, the acer-aspire support code was written by Realtek guys, so > it'd be best to ask them... Indeed, and far too late (they have submitted it in September I think) for guaranteeing non-problematic hardware behaviour... (I'd guesstimate the Realtek submission to be based on Acer activity) Anyway, still very nice to see that companies do submit patches after all. Thanks, Andreas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kernel-testers" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html