May be this is the wrong plase to ask. The question is: Why differnet wlan drivers use different settings to stay silent - powered on but not trying to associate to any accespoint? For example: ipw2200 - if wlan was connfigured like: iwconfig wlan1 essid "my-ap" chan 6 ap my:aps:mac ?key s:pass this will normaly connect to my secure ?AP. and if i set after this: ? iwconfig wlan1 essid off ap off it will connect to unsecure AP of my neighbour or of Dr.Evil :) to disable association on ipw2200 i need to set all this and plus "chan 0". With this cnowleg i want to set up iwl3945, and surprise it's not working. This driver do not accepted "chan 0" and instead of "essid off" it did "essid """ Are there any unified way to keep adapter powered on but not trying to associate to some AP? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kernel-testers" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html