On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 12:30:33PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 04:32:31PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 16:28, Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 16:04, Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:53:04PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 15:51, Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > But I would really like to go a step further and rip out the block mapping > > > > > > > support altogether so that we can fix non-coherent DMA aliases: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200224194446.690816-1-hch@xxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure I follow - is this about mapping parts of the static > > > > > > kernel Image for non-coherent DMA? > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, it's not directly related to your patch, just that if we're removing > > > > > options relating to kernel mappings then I'd be quite keen on effectively > > > > > forcing page-granularity on the linear map, as is currently done by default > > > > > thanks to RODATA_FULL_DEFAULT_ENABLED, so that we can nobble cacheable > > > > > aliases for non-coherent streaming DMA mappings by hooking into Christoph's > > > > > series above. > > Have we ever hit this issue in practice? At least from the CPU > perspective, we've assumed that a non-cacheable access would not hit in > the cache. Reading the ARM ARM rules, it doesn't seem to state this > explicitly but we can ask for clarification (I dug out an email from > 2015, left unanswered). > > Assuming that the CPU is behaving as we'd expect, are there other issues > with peripherals/SMMU? Any clarification would need to be architectural, I think, and not specific to the CPU. Worth asking again though. Will