On 2018-06-18 07:37:08 Draciron Smith wrote: > I don't upgrade till a version is out of support since upgrades never work > and I have to do a wipe and load and that's an insane amount of work for > me. I've been using Kbuntu LTS 14.04 and loving it with KDE 4.1.3.1 for > years now. I am in the process of taking several older computers that were > given to me and putting Linux on them as well as installing Linux for a > couple relatives and friends. I grabbed Kbuntu LTS 16.04 and slapped it on > the first machine. Ugg what a mess. Oh, yeah. This suggestion might sound extreme, but you should take a look at the *Trinity Desktop* <https://www.trinitydesktop.org/>, a fork of KDE3 (or check to see if your distro still provides KDE3 itself, as OpenSuSE does*). I gave up on KDE4 right away, because I need to be productive, and the "new, improved" KDE4 and Plasma desktop developers seem to have lost sight of that concept in favour of eye-candy and other gee-whiz features. The Trinity desktop is in active development, and like KDE3, it doesn't have any of those wonderfully useless features like akonadi. If you remember, KDE3 has a straightforward and easy to configure interface that doesn't require its user to be a software developer to use; and as such, it is appropriate for the Linux newcomer. Leslie *If your distro does have it, it might be hidden (from the wrath of the New KDE folks?); on OpenSuSE it's available as a "community repository," not built in. :-)