Bogus Zaba posted on Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:54:23 +0100 as excerpted: >> Once there, I *STRONGLY* recommend reading the help text (also >> available, >> if installed, in khelpcenter, system settings modules, colors), because >> there's a two-dimensional color organization, sets vs roles, that >> definitely takes some reading and then a bit of experimentation to get >> the hang of, but without that reading, the stuff that changes with each >> config change will seem almost random and the result will be VERY quick >> frustration! >> > I certainly see what you mean - having read through the help a couple of > times I think I understand it very slightly better than before... Not > sure if I could explain it to anybody else though. Now you know why I explained how to get kde colors system help, NOT how it all worked, directly! =:^) Back when I first switched to kde4, the kde dev (Matthew Woehlke) that setup the color kcm (kcontrol module, it's still kcontrol to me! =:^) was active on the lists and help me get a handle on things before the colors help was anywhere /near/ that good, in the process finding out just how hard it was for even relatively advanced users to get their heads around the thing without better help, and which concepts I had the most trouble with and needed the most help with. That's why that help topic is so much more in depth than many are, and why it's reasonably good, at least for folks who think like me, at explaining things. He and the other devs that came up with the framework were simply too close to it to clearly see where people would have problems with it, and I guess working with me to get it explained was exactly what it needed (as I said, at least for people who think like me. =:^& ) > Many thanks for your help on this. Doubt if I would have got there by > clicking away at the System Settings menus. Believe me, I know that feeling /well/, as I was certainly very frustrated with it when I was first trying to set it up! I believe it's my strong eye correction (stronger than -10 diopters) that makes me more sensitive to glare than most, thus explaining my *strong* preference for a "reversed color scheme" light text on dark backgrounds. As I explained back then, trying to work too long on standard light backgrounds, dark text, almost makes me physically ill, so it was /essential/ that I figure the colors settings out and be able to adjust them to my needs. Luckily, Matthew was on the lists at the time and I guess we helped each other work out our respective color problems. =:^) > btw How come you've stopped providing your standard paragraph which we > all came to enjoy over several years about "System Settings" being the > wrong name for that KDE module?? I chanced across someone else's use of a rather less strident version that still made the kde (not global system) connection: "kde system settings". That's entirely accurate, yet makes the point so smoothly you apparently didn't even notice it, and you were looking. Once I saw that, I began using the term as well. =:^) Tho as I'd already mentioned that it was kde system settings, in the context of the help center, I strictly followed the breadcrumbs. Since the breadcrumbs didn't have the kde and it was already apparent due to previous specific mention as well as the khelpcenter name, I omitted it there, much as I would if I were direct-quoting someone and they had omitted it in what I quoted. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.