> Kwin it's the you need to test. Normally kwin starts with KDE inyour case > it seems it crashed. Just test it ,run it on konsole, terminal, typing: > kwin --replace > Then press enter. Yeah that shouldn't happen and as Fedora is really Gnome and enterprise orientated by default you might be better off with any of Mepis or Kubuntu being the easiest or Sabayon being harder to maintain but very good. In fact you would be better off full stop as debian based distros like mepis and Kubuntu tend to do various things more sanely like using unix groups and sudo rather than sessions and PAM. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.