Hi :) On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Jerome Yuzyk posted on Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:23:50 -0700 as excerpted: > >> With all the hassles added by Akonadi and Nepomuk and Strigi for some >> higher "social/semantic desktop" purpose, does anyone actually _use_ the >> stuff? [...] >> So what's happening with this grand vision? > > My honest opinion? In general, it's a tool for those that really aren't > comfortable with "traditional" computers and the way they work. The kind > that has so many icons on their (traditional icon-based) desktop they > don't all fit, because that's the only place they can find things. [...] > Vs. a more "computer literate" person, who would handle it this way: [...] > So yes indeed, I perhaps more than most, tend to hate semantic-desktop > and the bugs and dead-weight bloat it has saddled kde4 with, and I'm > definitely glad to be able to be rid of it here! > > But even with that, I recognize that for people of a type far different > than me, people who really don't understand computers and who tend to > spend more time fighting them or at best, simply following rote "magic" > that they've found works, than actually working with and understanding > how and why the computer works as it does, for THESE people, semantic- > desktop may be a very useful tool indeed! > > So there's a time and a place for those semantic-desktop features. But > that time and place is about as far removed from me and my systems and > it's possible to get! Well Duncan, I agree with you in that there are two types of people, that I _don't_ like the semantic desktop and I'm also a Gentoo user (and Archer). But, IMHO, the devs could have made it possible to deactivate the semantic desktop for those who don't need/like it. I'm saying "could" and not should, IOW: not giving orders, it's just MHO ;) It would've been nice to have the new KDE-PIM with an option to activate or deactivate all the nepomuk, akonadi stuff. Even more: install it preactivated for those "non-geeks" and let us deactivate it. I understand there are limited resources in the dev world and that it's not so easy to do. That's why I don't come grumbling and whining. I'm no dev (I've tried but ... not good at it) so I sincerely respect the hard work and time they've put into the new KDE-PIM suite. I, for one, think KMail was a wonderful e-mail client. I've tried usin claws, TB, even evolution (OMG!) ... but no way: KMail was way better (IMHO). Tried to migrate over to KMail2 and had lots of issues so now I use a web browser ... :( I must admit I try KMail2 once in a while but I have the same issue most posters comment, I'll give a try in 4.10 again. Akgregator and kaddressbook are really useful but they depend on Akonadi ... I do use them since I've been able to import all my old data without issues and they don't hog up my drive nor CPU :) But KMail2 is overkill :( Summ'ing up: nope, I don't use semantic and I don't like it. This, of course, is MHO. Still think KDE is the best desktop :) Rafa ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.