On Tuesday, April 03, 2012 04:58:59 AM heathmatlock did opine: > Hi Gene, best thing to do would be to file a bug. Probably. But its been ages (kde2 days) since I went that route, spending an hour or so just getting bugzilla access setup, only to have Ingo K. say its a Won't Fix. I tried what I think is my old password, failed, probably because I have since changed ISP's so I'm not me but some imposter. Its bad enough just trying to stay ahead of the mailing list, its been renamed and restarted from scratch at least twice, maybe 3 times in the last 14 years I've been running linux. For years I was subscribed to this list, getting its emails many times a day, but I didn't have permission to post. It took a noisy blowup at the list admin 4 times before that was finally fixed and stayed fixed. I don't think the kde folks have ever heard of amanda, and their own backup offerings only have perhaps 0.01% of the smarts amanda has, so if a crash takes it down, its gone. That is no ones fault but their own IMO. Come to think of it, the last time I tried to setup a bz account at kde's bz, because it didn't know who I was, so I tried to open a new account, but then it said I already had an account and refused to process it. That was probably 4 years back or more back up the log as I was using Konstruct to build kde then. Has that been fixed? I like kde, beats gnome hands down, but the kde people go way the hell and gone out of their way to make filing bugs impossible. IMO if they really wanted to know about user problems, they would read their own user mailing lists. They could be an excellent source of user problems that need triage. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> Certainly there are things in life that money can't buy, But it's very funny -- did you ever try buying them without money? -- Ogden Nash ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.