pete writes: > I am having a few strange interactions here with KDE4.8.1 i use claws > mail for the simple reason Kmail has caused me too much hassle > recently , Me too, for daily use. For encrypted mails or local folders I still use KMail. Or when Claws crashes after sending a mail like now. > all was well untill the update to KDE 4.8.1 then every time > i send a mail it closes claws down if i open a compose window then > think dont bother and close the window the entire claws vanishes > Claws mail is version 3.8.0 on Arch Linux as in sig block below Exactly the same happens here on Gentoo Linux since this morning. I am running 4.8.1 since two weeks ago, but there was an update to 4.8.1-r1 three days ago, and I did not log out of KDE since today. But there was also an update to Xorg yesterday, from 1.11.4 to 1.12.0. The error message when started from a terminal is: The program 'claws-mail' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 55930 error_code 3 request_code 151 minor_code 3) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) And it also crashes when I run it in another window manager like IceWM or Enlightenment, with KDE running at that time or not. It even does so when I rename the .claws-mail directory so it starts with default configuration. However, it does _not_ crash when I run it with a new user with empty $HOME directory. Unless... this user is running KDE. But it only crashes from within KDE, it still does not crash in Enlightenment then. So, this user cannot run Claws from KDE, while I cannot use it at all now. I did not investigate this further, I probably could do some config bisecting, but I have no spare time at the moment. Did you also upgrade X to 12.0? P.S. when sending this mail, KMail asks for the SMTP server's password. Why doesn't it use the KDE wallet this time? These are those problems that made me switch to Claws. I'll restart Kontact and try again. Wonko ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.