Hi all, First of all newbie to the list. A request to all, please CC me if somebody answers as I have turned off mail delivery for the group as I have more than enough mailing lists subscriptions to last a lifetime. Ok, now the thing is Debian sid has just started on the road to KDE SC 4.7 . While I'm not a KDE User I do use quite a few of the KDE tools and more specifically games esp. Kshinshen and palapeli. In most GNU/Linux distributions that I have played with there is a concept called changelogs where one can read what changes, new features,bug-fixes etc. were done to a program once a new version is out. This I'm stating for self as well as any newbies who might be out there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changelog Like most of the distributions even Debian has this changelogs. Debian is a bit more particular as they also do something called Debianization hence we get two changelogs, one is the one where changelog about a particular program is kept (changelog.gz) and one where changes done for Debian packaging is kept. An example of a package/program where both changelog.gz and changelog.Debian.gz is kept :- /usr/share/doc/leafpad$ ls changelog.Debian.gz changelog.gz copyright README Now these are excerpts from the changelog.Debian.gz (which tells the latest update) :- /usr/share/doc/leafpad$ zcat changelog.Debian.gz | less leafpad (0.8.18.1-2) unstable; urgency=low * debian/compat - Update to 9 * debian/control - (Build-Depends): update to debhelper 9, dpkg-dev 1.16.1. * debian/patches - (20): Fix code for gcc hardened format specifiers. * debian/rules - Use hardened CFLAGS (FTBFS; Closes: #646343). http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/SecurityHardeningBuildFlags -- Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@xxxxxxxxx> Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:03:31 -0500 As can be seen this is the maintainer Jari Aalto and he is talking about some changes he did so it works in/with Debian better. There is another changelog which I'm more interested in :- /usr/share/doc/leafpad$ zcat changelog.gz | less 2010-12-23 version 0.8.18.1: * Fixed saving (Jan-Erik Rediger, Edward Sheldrake). 2010-12-18 version 0.8.18: * Fixed action when file name contains colon (John Lindgren, Mikko Viinamaki). * Fixed memory leak on saving file (Dmitry Artamonow). * Fixed caseless search bug (Dmitry Artamonow). * Fixed memory leak on line numbering (Hongwei Xi). * Fixed truncation on saving file (Alex, brian m. carlson). * Added translations: eo, gl. * Updated translations: fi, hu. This changelog is showing the actual changes that were made from say 0.8.18 to 0.8.18.1 Now I know that KDE has taken the modularization route so its easier both for users and developers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation I had tried to see if the changelogs are there in Debian in quite a few of the KDE packages that I have on the system but got nowhere with them :- For e.g. /usr/share/doc/kdegames$ ls changelog.Debian.gz copyright README /usr/share/doc/palapeli$ ls changelog.Debian.gz copyright So either it means that no changes were done when transiting from KDE 4.4/4.6 to KDE 4.7 or what for these packages or maybe the Debian maintainers messed it up somewhere . Just to make it clear for myself I also downloaded a source file from KDE 4.8 info page (as that is the latest release of the project) and tried to see if there is a changelog somewhere but couldn't. For instance I downloaded the package analitza (I don't really know what the package does) but its the first one listed and it is pretty small. ftp://mirrors.dotsrc.org/kde/stable/4.8.0/src/analitza-4.8.0.tar.bz2 uncompressed and went to the directory to see if there was anything by the name changelog or something but didn't find any. ~/analitza-4.8.0$ ls | grep change* A simple listing shows me this :- ~/analitza-4.8.0$ ls analitza analitza.kdev4 cmake config-kalgebra.h.cmake COPYING.DOC icons Messages.sh analitzagui calgebra CMakeLists.txt COPYING COPYING.LIB Mainpage.dox TODO Looking forward to understand . -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.