Alex Schuster posted on Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:08:11 +0100 as excerpted: > But in order to access your mails, select another window manager or > desktop environment when logging in at KDM. Like, Gnome, OpenBox, Xfce, > or whatever else is installed on your system. Then start KMail from this > environment. You do not need to actually run KDE to start KDE > applications. Good point! =:^) I only have kde installed (even the the gentoo fallbacks, xterm and twm I think it is, are package.provided so I don't have them installed either; if kde breaks, I simply revert back to older, known-working versions, and/ or revert to a default config and bisect the problem in the config, if it's a user config issue), and don't have a *DM either, choosing instead to login using the text login, and startx/startkde from there, so didn't think of that. But you're right, most distros (including gentoo if I hadn't bypassed the fallbacks to avoid having to install and update them) have fallbacks, and it's possible to run kde apps (as opposed to the entire kde session) from them even if the kde session isn't working. Good point indeed! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.