On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 03:27:14 PM J did opine:
> gene heskett
>
> > On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 02:43:56 PM J did opine:
> >> gene heskett
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 01:38:04 PM Duncan did opine:
> >> >> Maybe someday an independent kde dev will come along and start a
> >> >> "just does X" client for each of those three Xs. Maybe not. If
> >> >> I'm lucky, tho, they'll be started right away, and be reasonably
> >> >> mature and ready for use when claws jumps the shark like kmail
> >> >> did, tho hopefully that won't be for a decade or longer, if ever.
> >> >
> >> > Interesting that you say claws, but this post came from the pan
> >> > newsreader according to its headers. It pointed out also that I
> >> > need to apparently increase the number of copies of spamd I have
> >> > running as it failed on the first call getting an
> >> > X-Nasty-aren't-we inserted by procmail. Local stuffs.
> >> >
> >> > What I would like to do is start a conversation with someone who
> >> > has bailed
> >> > on kmail & went to claws, and see just how hard it would be to
> >> > convert my box to that, including the importation of the whole,
> >> > several Gigabyte, some
> >> > of it now approaching 10 years old, kmail email corpus into claws.
> >> > All the
> >> > while continuing with my present fetchmail based system to deliver
> >> > the filtered email into /var/spool/mail/gene.
> >>
> >> I just did that. I tried to upgrade to kmail2 and it spectacularly
> >> failed. I switched to claws, based on Duncan's recommendation. I'm
> >> surprised I haven't been using it for some time.
> >>
> >> > Like others, the ^#$%& churn in kmail's "accessory" tie-ins,
> >> > without ever fixing its most glaring fault, the lack of
> >> > multi-threading vis-a-vis mail fetching, is beginning to get under
> >> > my skin.
> >>
> >> Claws doesn't multi-thread well either.
> >>
> >> > This of course is off topic from the OP's subject line, sorry.
> >> > Humm, no I'm not, come to think of it, kde needs to better
> >> > understand the users viewpoint on stuff like this, and this is
> >> > after all the kde (the whole maryann) mailing list.
> >> >
> >> > I have a lot of claws installed already, so the first thing is to
> >> > import the kmail email corpus into claws. And on that point, I
> >> > have no clue, but would assume the right search terms might find a
> >> > tut on the web. My feeble efforts haven't found it yet though.
> >>
> >> I cheated. I set up an imap server on localhost, pointed it to my
> >> kMail Maildir and then just did a drag and drop into the Claws MH
> >> mailstore. Then I uninstalled the imap server.
> >
> > Claws apparently does only mailfile operations, whereas I have 3/4ths
> > of the kmail "cur" subdirs as maildirs.
> >
> > I was thinking that I could maybe do a "cpa cur/* /var/mail/gene" and
> > then have claws read it just as if it was incoming mail.
> >
> > Would that, or a similar idea work?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> To convert a Maildir you either need to convert the mail files into mbox
> format (I don't recommend this, the scripts I tried were almost as bad
> as kMail2) or put in a temporary install of an IMAP server and rename
> Folder to .Folder within the Maildir to get the imap server to see
> them.
The difference between the maildir/file, and the individual email in a
mailfile, seems to be that the apparent break between the files that I have
noted the possible separator marker is a 2 empty lines followed by a From
with no terminating semicolon, it really shouldn't be that hard to convert
back to mailfile. However, the mailfile messages are already contaminated
with spamassassin headers, and the 5 or 6 I looked at are also bereft of
the bare 'From so and so @ site' line, so possibly it will be more complex
than a simple cpa operation after all.
>
> It took me about 20 minutes to install, configure, convert, and
> uninstall. I had about 7 years of old email to move over. Hardest part
> was configuring cyrus-IMAP to see the Maildir (one config item under
> OpenSusE).
I'll have to check cyrus-IMAP out after all. Installed, but an lsof |grep
cyrus doesn't return a hint of where its working directory is. I'll search
/etc & its man page for clues.
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene
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