On Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:22 PM, "Alex Schuster" <wonko@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Tim Edwards writes: > > > Saw something interesting in the konsole window - just before the freeze > > ups each time there is output from the Pyweather plasma widget that > > shows it trying to retrieve weather data from the net. Currently our > > cable internet is out so I'm using 3G (USB tethering from the mobile > > phone), which in our house is slow and gets an intermittent signal. > > > > My theory is it looks like the Pyweather widget is hanging trying to get > > data sometimes, and this in turn hangs plasma-desktop. Which, if true, > > is IMHO a huge design fault in plasma-desktop. Anyway I'll see if this > > theory holds out, Pyweather's been removed and so far no freezes. > > Yes, that's the problem with plasma-desktoüp, it's single threaded, and > if one plasmoid hangs, whole plasma hangs. I often had such trouble when > using plasmoids I downloaded fron the net. > > I also believe it's a huge design fault, but there _are_ indeed reasons > for doing this, having to do with speed mainly I think. I don't find the > link right now where this was explained, but if you are interested, I > could search and find it. I guess there's not much point, the problem solved/design flaw worked around by removing plasmoids that are possibly unstable. It does kind of limit the usefulness of the whole plasma system though - anything which might possibly hang should not be used. This particular machine is a netbook so I expect to use it in various places where internet connectivity is bad or non-existent. It sucks for the users who don't know how to debug technical problems and search on mailing lists though - no wonder there's so many posts on forums about 'KDE freezing' or 'KDE hanging'. Tim ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.