Re: application starter, etc

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On 2011/08/07 22:13 (GMT) Duncan composed:

Felix Miata composed:

 Which package should provide the panel?

It sounds like the functional package is installed, since you're getting
a desktop at all.  The panel, the desktop, that's all part of plasma (the
binary is plasma-desktop, the packages would include plasma-runtime,

no such package

plasma-workspace,

no such package

plasma-apps,

no such package

libplasmagenericshell, libplasmaclock,

Both installed.

kdeplasma-addons,

Installing this would pull 77 runner, applet, wallpaper, dataengine groups, plus 7 more libs, & marble-common. Plus plasma-desktoptheme-default, which I installed, but didn't help.

 etc, or possibly kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace,
if mandriva is packaging the unsplit upstream kde tarballs).  However, it
sounds like you may be missing an icons package, or more likely, the KDE
SYstem COnfig CAche (sycoca) is screwed up and/or you have some vital
environmental settings badly messed up.

Does mandriva still use their own menu system as they used to, years
ago?  If so, it could be related to that and nothing other distros would
even know about.

I think the massive differences were dispensed with several years ago.

I decided to evaluate another approach, 'urpmi task-kde4-minimal --no-suggests', which wants to install the following 15 packages:
ark
dolphin
keditbookmarks
kfind
kmozillahelper
kwrite
libdolphinprivate4
libkbookmarkmodel_private4
libkerfuffle4
libkonq5
libpsync1
plasma-applet-folderview
plasma-desktoptheme-aya
plasma-wallpaper-timeoftheday
task-kde4-minimal

So I tried picking likely candidates for genuine deps, one by one, except with both plasma-desktoptheme-default and plasma-desktoptheme-rosa already installed, none except maybe folderview look like real deps. So I tried urpme plasma-desktoptheme-rosa, and it wants to remove kdebase4-workspace, plasma-desktoptheme-default, rosa-launcher & rosapanel. After seeing a lot of rosas mentioned in thread subjects on the Mandriva mailing list lately, and with 2011 still in RC, I suppose rosa may be the only available launcher, and broken. I think I'll just give up on this until after 2011 gets past RC.

FWIW, this is what *kdm*, *kde* & *plasma* are installed:
free-kde4-config-2011-0.85-mdv2011.0.noarch
kde4-nsplugins-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
kde4-splash-mdv-2010.1.0-3-mdv2011.0.i586
kde4-windeco-dekorator-0.5.1-6-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeadmin4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-color-schemes-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-emoticons-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-kscreensaver-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-sounds-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-styles-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-6-mdv2011.0.i586
kdebase4-workspace-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdebase4-workspace-googlegadgets-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdegraphics4-core-4.6.5-3-mdv2011.0.i586
kde-l10n-en_US-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdelibs4-core-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
kdepimlibs4-core-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdm-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdmfprintplugin-0.0-0.1050414.5-mdv2011.0.i586
libakonadi-kde4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
libkde3support4-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdecorations4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdecore5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdefakes5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdesu5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdeui5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdewebkit5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkwineffects1-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
liblockdev1-1.0.3-12-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma3-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma_applet_system_monitor4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasmaclock4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasmagenericshell4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma-geolocation-interface4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
mandriva-kde4-config-common-2011-0.85-mdv2011.0.noarch
mandriva-kde-icons-1.0.4-13-mdv2011.0.noarch
mandriva-kde-translation-2011-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
plasma-applet-calculator-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-folderview-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-showdesktop-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-stackfolder-0.1.9-12-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-cpu-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-hdd-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-hwinfo-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-net-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-temperature-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-desktoptheme-default-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-desktoptheme-rosa-1.2.0-4-mdv2011.0.noarch
plasma-scriptengine-python-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
polkit-kde-agent-1-0.99.0-3-mdv2011.0.i586
python-kde4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
xsettings-kde-0.11-5-mdv2011.0.i586
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